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Hi all
Looking for some clerk type gen as I'm getting conflicting information.

Can anyone let me know what entitlement I have for my family to stay once my quarter has been given up while
Waiting for flights overseas ... I've been told 3 nights and also 5 nights hotel accommodation with food daily
Subsistence allowance for the whole family

But also I've been told if I use one of the welfare houses on camp I can only claim 3 nights but I get no substance
Allowance

Jsp 752 simply states ask admin staff for details does anyone have experience of this and can help me out

Cheers
 
who knows?

who knows?

I got a night in the gateway and help from parents....but then i had my own house to rent out and they didn't seem to care about that.
 
Am I the only one that thinks the old system was so much easier?


  1. Arrive at your new unit.
  2. Move into single accommodation.
  3. Apply for a married quarter.
  4. Be a 'Bean Stealer' until a quarter becomes available.
 
I got four nights hotel and subsistance on my way out to Cyprus.

Had to pay myself upfront and claim it back though!
 
AlienFB said:
I got four nights hotel and subsistance on my way out to Cyprus.

Had to pay myself upfront and claim it back though!
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I've got three nights fella, but I have been told that I can ask for an advance upto around 95 percent of the total of hotel stay and the daily food allowance.

Happy days :PDT_Xtremez_30:

FB
 
Barch, the singly accommodation needs to be available to move into. We've been waiting nearly twenty years for SLAM blocks at a lot of Units with no other blocks being built. Some places have run out of bed spaces completely with no money to build more. Other Camps have completely run out of Quarters and they want you out ASAP on posting so you become another regions problem. I'm afraid the old system is gone never to return, the problem is now the costs of posting personnel can be more clearly seen which frightens budget holders who try and deny as much as possible to people.
 
Casual Hero said:
Hi all
Looking for some clerk type gen as I'm getting conflicting information.

Can anyone let me know what entitlement I have for my family to stay once my quarter has been given up while
Waiting for flights overseas ... I've been told 3 nights and also 5 nights hotel accommodation with food daily
Subsistence allowance for the whole family

But also I've been told if I use one of the welfare houses on camp I can only claim 3 nights but I get no substance
Allowance

Jsp 752 simply states ask admin staff for details does anyone have experience of this and can help me out

Cheers
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Surely if the welfare house is available (and for cases like this it should be), then you have an obligation to use it, rather than £500+ to stay in some hotel just down the road?
 
muttywhitedog said:
Surely if the welfare house is available (and for cases like this it should be), then you have an obligation to use it, rather than £500+ to stay in some hotel just down the road?
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Yeah I'm happy to use that at £20 a night ... But it's whether we can still claim subsistence
 
What is the difference in price between cooking a meal in your SFQ and cooking the same meal in the welfare house?
 
So would this be classed as a 'service club' and therefore claim the actual expenditure?

Or perhaps a PAR claim of 25 quid per 24 hour period?

I guess nothing actually covers these welfare houses in the jsp?
 
MWD, have you had a good assement and thinking of staying in again.

Mover in question has probably not got a car, cannot pop down to supermarket to buy stuff, family about to go through a very traumatic time, in strange house, changing school, changing country, not exactly feeling settled for the sake of few quid and with the current level of rates it's not exactly a luxury lifestyle.

Yeh lets penny pinch a few quid and complete the disengagement of employees and their families.

Last time I moved overseas, don't know if you have MWD, I was offered nothing so booked and paid for my own hotel both ways to make things pleasant, paid for my own hire car so I could get around.
 
The JSP 752 is quite specific for once on Subsistance Allowance when assigned overseas and has it's own part of the SA regulations; unfortunately haven't got the exact reference to hand but it comes under the SA Chapter. You are entitled to claim for accom and SA for your whole family for up to 6 nights (from memory, this might be slightly less) but local regulations may reduce this entitlement by a few days or make you take advantage of local welfare housing if available.

For the record I had 6 nights on return from Germany, 4 over there in local accom and 2 in the UK via DHRS; SA all in for 4 of us for the 6 nights. Regulations do differ though on assignment overseas and on return from overseas.
 
Being the good techie I am, I have read the JSP (I have it by my bed) and it says upto 3 nights (or 4 if a sunday/BH is included). On arrival overseas you could have upto 14 nights extended to 28!

6 nights on return from overseas.

Right I'm off to read the next chapter :PDT_Xtremez_14:
 
busby1971 said:
MWD, have you had a good assement and thinking of staying in again.

Mover in question has probably not got a car, cannot pop down to supermarket to buy stuff, family about to go through a very traumatic time, in strange house, changing school, changing country, not exactly feeling settled for the sake of few quid and with the current level of rates it's not exactly a luxury lifestyle.

Yeh lets penny pinch a few quid and complete the disengagement of employees and their families.

Last time I moved overseas, don't know if you have MWD, I was offered nothing so booked and paid for my own hotel both ways to make things pleasant, paid for my own hire car so I could get around.
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No I've never served overseas. Last time I moved house, I spent £9 on a travelodge room and bought fish & chips from the village chippy for tea, then made some toast for breakfast. I never even thought about claiming it back.

Maybe the OP and his family could eat in the Mess if they have no car? Just a thought like...

Its been a while since you were forced to leave the air force busby, and in case you havent heard, we are skint. Therefore it falls on each and every one of us remaining to spend the taxpayer's money like we would spend our own.
 
Are you advocating not claiming entitlements then?
 
Downsizer said:
Are you advocating not claiming entitlements then?
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No. I'm advocating claiming what you have to spend. If there is no need for a 4star hotel, due to a free welfare house being available (nb free - not a fiver a day for the quarter and council tax) then why should the taxpayer stump up this money? I'd rather it went on expenditure where there was absolutely no cheaper option.

In the case I referred to, I could have slept on the floor in my old or new mq, but made the choice to spend £9 on a travelodge. I could have made a sandwich, but chose to spend a bit more on a hot meal from the chippy. Why would I expect the taxpayer to pick up the cost of my lifestyle choice?
 
Sod that, if you can stay in a hotel and claim it back, crack on.

Even though Chancellor Mutty is tighter than a camels ar$e in a sandstorm :PDT_Xtremez_15:
 
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