my son is 1 month into trade training as a supplier, not his first choice but as he is colour blind there wasn't much else, this weekend he has told us he is bored out of his mind and thinks he might pack it in, he needs a lot of mental an physical stimulation and isn't getting it, is there another trade he could do that would give him this, he has the brains but not the sight,
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lafyar kokov
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As FOMZ says his first port of call should be his Course Commander.
Having said that though even if he manages to transfer to a different trade there will be an extensive period of classroom tuition. Is he bored because he doesn't like being stuck in a classroom? If that is the case remind him that Trade Training is a very small, but essential, part of his career and once that is finished he can do as much Adventure Training, Sport etc as he wishes.
Hope this helps a bit, but he MUST go and talk to his Course Commander
Having said that though even if he manages to transfer to a different trade there will be an extensive period of classroom tuition. Is he bored because he doesn't like being stuck in a classroom? If that is the case remind him that Trade Training is a very small, but essential, part of his career and once that is finished he can do as much Adventure Training, Sport etc as he wishes.
Hope this helps a bit, but he MUST go and talk to his Course Commander
Inevertouchedit
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Physical stimulation ??? Has he tried the Station gym, or is he of the Nintendo generation ??
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He is going to hopefully talk to the course commander tomorrow, as he is training to be a supplier he says he can't see himself stacking shelves for the next 9 years, I think a lot has to do with all the guys he went through training with have now gone to other bases but also I can see his point. This has left me and his Dad feeling rather down, we see kids with no prospects hanging around town, getting drunk and we were so happy he joined the RAF thinking it would give him a stable life, but at the same time we don't like to see him so unhappy. Being bias we feel the RAF would lose out if he left, he has a lot to offer, there must be other exciting careers where colourblindness doesn't affect the role.
And yes he is an impatient teenager so anything we say doesn't mean much to him, hopefully tomorrow he will talk with someone who can help and reassure him.
Thank you for your responses they mean a lot.
tomorrow
He is going to hopefully talk to the course commander tomorrow, as he is training to be a supplier he says he can't see himself stacking shelves for the next 9 years, I think a lot has to do with all the guys he went through training with have now gone to other bases but also I can see his point. This has left me and his Dad feeling rather down, we see kids with no prospects hanging around town, getting drunk and we were so happy he joined the RAF thinking it would give him a stable life, but at the same time we don't like to see him so unhappy. Being bias we feel the RAF would lose out if he left, he has a lot to offer, there must be other exciting careers where colourblindness doesn't affect the role.
And yes he is an impatient teenager so anything we say doesn't mean much to him, hopefully tomorrow he will talk with someone who can help and reassure him.
Thank you for your responses they mean a lot.
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I think many of us serving and ex-serving members on the Goat can think back to a time in training where we've felt a bit glum and pondered the decision to join the RAF at that point...The key to getting through this period is rationalising your mood, geography and company...
To explain...His mood may be a factor of a poor career choice but also as you've intimated a bit of loneliness may also be a player as his mates have all thinned out...Sundays on a quiet camp can be hard on the soul and he needs to get off his ar$e and go find someone to talk to or even pop to the supermarket/cafe/naafi, buy a paper and a brew and fill his time out...By geograhy I mean was this a mandatory working weekend or is he too far from home to get there over a weekend? Although many of us old lags don't condone going home every weekend if there is a time when he's going to sit in his room on his own mulling thing over then thats the weekend to make the effort to travel...
Company can make or break your time during training...even if his mates have all gone onto other stations this is very indicative of service life and something he'll have to get used to...If he was to look around he'll see others in a similar position so he should go say hello...Plus if he knows he's in for a quiet weekend then thats his que to start asking around during the week of his co-workers what they are up to come Friday and maybe stringing a plan together that keeps him included...
Of course he could join the Goat...There's always someone knocking around on here for him to communicate with!
To explain...His mood may be a factor of a poor career choice but also as you've intimated a bit of loneliness may also be a player as his mates have all thinned out...Sundays on a quiet camp can be hard on the soul and he needs to get off his ar$e and go find someone to talk to or even pop to the supermarket/cafe/naafi, buy a paper and a brew and fill his time out...By geograhy I mean was this a mandatory working weekend or is he too far from home to get there over a weekend? Although many of us old lags don't condone going home every weekend if there is a time when he's going to sit in his room on his own mulling thing over then thats the weekend to make the effort to travel...
Company can make or break your time during training...even if his mates have all gone onto other stations this is very indicative of service life and something he'll have to get used to...If he was to look around he'll see others in a similar position so he should go say hello...Plus if he knows he's in for a quiet weekend then thats his que to start asking around during the week of his co-workers what they are up to come Friday and maybe stringing a plan together that keeps him included...
Of course he could join the Goat...There's always someone knocking around on here for him to communicate with!
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Do we have a scribbly or AFCO person on here who could perhaps list the alternatives for someone who's colour blind? I can only think of:
1. Intelligence Analyst (Voice) [Int An(V)]
2. PTI
3. Scribbly
4. Musician
RAF Regiment/MT I'm not sure about.
1. Intelligence Analyst (Voice) [Int An(V)]
2. PTI
3. Scribbly
4. Musician
RAF Regiment/MT I'm not sure about.
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shoutingwind
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i empathise with your son sueray, training can be very very boring.. but as soon as he is unleashed and into the real airforce he'll see that its much more fun. he just has to hang on in there...
my trade training was 13 months long, stuck at cosford where i was too far away from anyone i knew to get out at the weekends, and for the first 6 months we didn't even touch on trade knowledge just boring maths and paperwork (i was 17 at the time). i found a hobby at the weekends really helped, i learnt to glide (if stacker training is still at halton there is an excellant gliding site about 10 mins away from the main camp) and went running alot, or jumped on a train and went to places.
my trade training was 13 months long, stuck at cosford where i was too far away from anyone i knew to get out at the weekends, and for the first 6 months we didn't even touch on trade knowledge just boring maths and paperwork (i was 17 at the time). i found a hobby at the weekends really helped, i learnt to glide (if stacker training is still at halton there is an excellant gliding site about 10 mins away from the main camp) and went running alot, or jumped on a train and went to places.
I hated trade training and at one point, I too felt like jacking it in. A few guys on the course took me out, got me leathered and got me to snap out of it.
Training can be hard in many ways.
As for stacking shelves for the next 9 years. Thats a very narrow minded view. He needs to look further ahead than the end of his nose.
Training can be hard in many ways.
As for stacking shelves for the next 9 years. Thats a very narrow minded view. He needs to look further ahead than the end of his nose.
Thanks
Thanks
Thank you all for your replies, I am keeping my fingers crossed that someone will give him a good talking to and make him realise that a good life awaits him if he sticks it out, it is hard being a mum and letting go, knowing he needs to make up his own mind but also knowing he needs guidance that I am not in a posistion to give.
Once again Thank you
P.S. If there are any suppliers out there that can say some good things about the job please post them here so I can show him.
And if he does leave I will not be visiting E-Goat again (too painful) but this site has helped me get through his training, Thanks and good luck to you all.
Thanks
Thank you all for your replies, I am keeping my fingers crossed that someone will give him a good talking to and make him realise that a good life awaits him if he sticks it out, it is hard being a mum and letting go, knowing he needs to make up his own mind but also knowing he needs guidance that I am not in a posistion to give.
Once again Thank you
P.S. If there are any suppliers out there that can say some good things about the job please post them here so I can show him.
And if he does leave I will not be visiting E-Goat again (too painful) but this site has helped me get through his training, Thanks and good luck to you all.
3wheeledtechie
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I'm assuming he's fairly young (i.e. 20 or less) and hasn't had that much life experience. The worst thing you can do is sympathy. Tell him to man up and get on with it. He chose this career, and until he gives it a decent crack, he can't justify jacking it in.
Have you thought of turning his old room into a study, or putting a lodger in there?
Have you thought of turning his old room into a study, or putting a lodger in there?
The only trades open to him are supplier or medic, he could do intelligence anylyst (voice) but needs a language, he has 11 gcse's C and 3 A levels but not one of them a language!
I would love to say be a man and get on with it but if it was the wrong choice that would be 9 years with me having to live with the guilt, I am just keeping my fingers crossed that his mind will be changed.
Thanks again for taking time to reply
I would love to say be a man and get on with it but if it was the wrong choice that would be 9 years with me having to live with the guilt, I am just keeping my fingers crossed that his mind will be changed.
Thanks again for taking time to reply
apparently firefighter is out as well, if he needs to cut wires he would not be able to tell the colours apart, that was what he was told, there is no way I am going to let him change a plug at home!!
read that during the war men that were colour blind were used to study ariel photographs as they could see straight through camouflage and my Father who also had the condition was in radar for the RAF, anyway I am more optimistic today and hope he will sort things out.
read that during the war men that were colour blind were used to study ariel photographs as they could see straight through camouflage and my Father who also had the condition was in radar for the RAF, anyway I am more optimistic today and hope he will sort things out.
As others have said Sue, getting fed up in trade training is something most of us went throught at some stage, he needs to man up and get a grip. Trade Training is only for a few months, not the whole of his time in the RAF. As to excitement, he will get as much as he needs on his first trip to Iraq or Afghanistan.
Supply do much more than stack shelves, get him to join egoat and chat with some of the guys who have worked on Tactical supply wing.
Supply do much more than stack shelves, get him to join egoat and chat with some of the guys who have worked on Tactical supply wing.