Advice Required

[TotalWar]

What would be the normal procedure for the following:-

My son, who is in the Army, has just been on a six week exercise in Africa.
While there, he and his section were instructed to leave their kit(bergans etc) in a building while they did some tabbing.

On return, all the kit had been stolen.

MPs obviously got involved, statements taken etc.

On his return to Germany, they have been billed for the missing kit, and told to claim on their kit insurance.

On the face of it, this seems wrong to me.

Im away from work at the moment, so cant check up on our Regs.

Could someone please advise me if the above sounds correct. PM if necessary.

thanks

 

[chiprafp]

What would be the normal procedure for the following:-

My son, who is in the Army, has just been on a six week exercise in Africa.
While there, he and his section were instructed to leave their kit(bergans etc) in a building while they did some tabbing.

On return, all the kit had been stolen.

MPs obviously got involved, statements taken etc.

On his return to Germany, they have been billed for the missing kit, and told to claim on their kit insurance.

On the face of it, this seems wrong to me.

Im away from work at the moment, so cant check up on our Regs.

Could someone please advise me if the above sounds correct. PM if necessary.

thanks

Was the building/room secured in anyway? Guard posted? if not there isnt a chance in hell they are liable and no insurance company will pay out either. The person giving the order has a responsibility to secure the kit they order left behind.

 

[RAF Bird]

Yeah fraid so mate, they will have to claim on their kit insurance however as Chip says if the building was not secured etc they will struggle to get any insurance company to pay out!

 

[Mightierthan]

He can submit a redress and request that as redress the value of the military kit be written off and he be reimbursed for the cost of his personal kit.

He may just find that if he submitted this then redress could be granted at the lowest level without it all going too official. After all, if such a redress were to progress all the way, the person giving the order would come under scrutiny.

However, how this would affect his career short-term is not for me to say. If he were RAF then I would say submit it without thought, but being Army there could be repercussions. Then again, if everyone submitted a redress....

 

[PingDit]

In my view, the kit was lost as a result of an official order. He is therefore no longer responsible for any loss. His flight commander, on hearing this explanation should issue a note or letter to stores permitting re-issue of all kit lost at no expense to the individual.

Ping

 

[pinkster]

In my view, the kit was lost as a result of an official order. He is therefore no longer responsible for any loss. His flight commander, on hearing this explanation should issue a note or letter to stores permitting re-issue of all kit lost at no expense to the individual.

Ping

couldnt agree more, if they where ordered to leave their kit in a building by a superior it is his responsibility to ensure the building and kit is secured.

If the bloody army are trying to bill him for this kit, like others have said if the building was insecure then insurance companies will not pay, I would seek legal advice, not from a Military rep but from citizans advice or even a civilian solicitor.

The service kit should be replaced free of charge. god damn army

 

[IPT Scales God]

couldnt agree more, if they where ordered to leave their kit in a building by a superior it is his responsibility to ensure the building and kit is secured.

If the bloody army are trying to bill him for this kit, like others have said if the building was insecure then insurance companies will not pay, I would seek legal advice, not from a Military rep but from citizans advice or even a civilian solicitor.

The service kit should be replaced free of charge. god damn army

I have worked (Second Job) for an insurance/ mortgage company, if the kit was left in an insecure Unlocked/unguarded building you will stuggle to get anything from them, I agree with the others, If the kit was stollen/lost due to a direct order, I would push for redress action, the boss if worth his/her salt would send a letter to the stores section to get the kit issued.......but I know the Army like to bill for everything, I was once asked (By an Army Boss) to raise a bill for missing batteries, lets just say we had a slight disagreement over this......