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One of my Cpl's has submitted his PVR, requesting exit date of 30 Aug 08. He has been told by our boss that the earliest he can leave is 12 months time as per the listed PVR time for his trade, which is fair enoughl. However, what are the rules regarding confirmed job offers, can this help him to get out any earlier?

If there is information regarding this, where can it be found?
 
If he recieves a formal job offer then there is scope for him to leave early, but generally it requires an undertaking from management that they are prepared to run light until a replacement is found.

E.g:

Cpl given PVR date of 1 Jul 09
Job Offer recieved to start on 1 Jun 09
Cpl may be released, but you run light from 1 Jun to 1 Jul.

If he has a formal offer of a job, send the letter to PMA covered by a supporting letter from his Flt Cdr explaining the situation and requesting early release. Don't forget to speak to the Chf Clk first though!
 
No, there are no legal comebacks. You may hear stories about this challenge or that redress, but don't believe them. Also, if the boss says he can run light for say, 6 months, the Unit will probably say they don't need the post at all and could chop it.
 
No, there are no legal comebacks. You may hear stories about this challenge or that redress, but don't believe them. Also, if the boss says he can run light for say, 6 months, the Unit will probably say they don't need the post at all and could chop it.


An excellent point. The only exception I have seen to my previous post was a young chap who wanted to join the police force; he had a letter telling him that if he couldn't start training on a particular date then he wouldn't be accepted, but the gap was only one or two months. I have also been advised by one of my colleagues that it may be easier for your Flt Cdr to negotiate a later start date with the prospective employer, explaining the Service's point of view, than to negotiate with PMA.
 
I also think it depends on how badly someone wants the job.

Personally, if I had a great job offer that needed me to cut my time down, I would be in front of the boss asking him was he sure he would want me around for those additional months after not signing my paperwork; I would be the biggest pain in the ar5e. It just wouldn't be worth it for him.

There comes a time when you have to look after No 1
 
No, there are no legal comebacks. You may hear stories about this challenge or that redress, but don't believe them. Also, if the boss says he can run light for say, 6 months, the Unit will probably say they don't need the post at all and could chop it.

Yes, ACOS manning warned in a Station brief that those sections offering to run light could run the risk of losing the post.
 
Hard to justify

Hard to justify

If a boss is short of man and arguing his case up the line for extra bods/ease in workload it is an impossible task for him to agree to run light, blows his argument out of the water.
 
Just fail your fitness test and you'll be out quick!

Seriously though, if you stash up all your leave & resettlement (if entitled) then you will have quite a bit of time off, whilst still leaving at the 12 month point. One of the SACs on my Sqn has PVRd and by stashing everything up, she can leave almost 4 months before her exit date.

And if there's any re-engagement leave on record, get that in on JPA quick before someone takes it off you!
 
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From another point of view;

We are paid monthly. Legally, you are therefore entitled to hand in one months notice and you can then leave. I've heard of this happening, and no action has been taken against the leaver. However, as always in these situations, I've never personally met someone who's done this. It does in principal, sound as if it would stand up in EU law though. Worth him looking into (providing he doesn't ask the RAF!).
Can a scribbly confirm this?
 
From another point of view;

We are paid monthly. Legally, you are therefore entitled to hand in one months notice and you can then leave. I've heard of this happening, and no action has been taken against the leaver. However, as always in these situations, I've never personally met someone who's done this. It does in principal, sound as if it would stand up in EU law though. Worth him looking into (providing he doesn't ask the RAF!).
Can a scribbly confirm this?

Don't like to do 2 posts in a row but this seems to be a T Bar rumour to me, you've signed a contract, you've signed a form saying you understand your contract (you did this when you joined up), and don't forget you are paid monthly in arrears not in advance so the RAF always owe you not the other way round.

As ever the I don't know anybody personally just caps it off. Go ahead be the first and enjoy the infamy.
 
From another point of view;

We are paid monthly. Legally, you are therefore entitled to hand in one months notice and you can then leave. I've heard of this happening, and no action has been taken against the leaver. However, as always in these situations, I've never personally met someone who's done this. It does in principal, sound as if it would stand up in EU law though. Worth him looking into (providing he doesn't ask the RAF!).
Can a scribbly confirm this?

Load of rubbish!
My missus tried to pvr last year with a job offer, RAF wouldn't let her out. She pvr'd in January, out in 10 days because she was going to a job that the RAF wants to work. RAF will do what is in its interest not the individuals!
 
Load of rubbish!
My missus tried to pvr last year with a job offer, RAF wouldn't let her out. She pvr'd in January, out in 10 days because she was going to a job that the RAF wants to work. RAF will do what is in its interest not the individuals!

Seeing your post has just made me realise who you are mate; I was just gonna post using her as the example but you beat me to it :PDT_Xtremez_19: (worked with her for as long as she was 'over here'; I've also 'gone across' but am staying a bit more local :PDT_Xtremez_15: ). One of our blokes (who's a member on here) bunged his PVR in back in December to get out in time to take up a job starting at the begining of February in the same kinda circumstances as Snowballs missus - PVR board rejected him (at the very end of January) and stated that "...he should re-apply but with a more realistic exit date i.e. 12 months time". :PDT_Xtremez_17:
 
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