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Best band in Britain today?

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Valid Point

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[QUOTEdont iron maiden have a different lead singer than the original line up?
then i would argue that it is almost like 2 bands[/QUOTE]

Yeah Maiden have changed their line up a few times over the years but regardless of the lineup the band is still Iron Maiden.
Dennis Stratton, adrian young, Steve harris, Clive burr, and Paul Diannio were the original lineup (they did have a singer before paul but his name escapes my mind at the moment).

I think if you look at most bands that have been going for as long as maiden or even bands that have been around for a short time. They will have at some point changed their lineup.
Oasis are a prime example but they are still Oasis arent they???
 
Marillion went downhill after that

Marillion went downhill after that

mightyhunter said:
you could say that about marillion when fish left in '88 and was replaced by steve hogarth.
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Marillion just were not the same when Fish left he was a hard act to follow. I suppose it all depends on the ability of the replacements to whether the band go on to record and sell more records. Unfortunately Marillion kind of slipped from the top however they are still going even today and releasing new records. They have just finished off a uk tour in 07 in support of their new album.
I suppose when a band change its lineup it is quite easy to tell who are the driving force behind the band.
For example Maiden have changed their lineup many times but Steve harris has never left the band and they have always survived. This shows that Harris is the driving force behind maiden.
And as long as Oasis have Noel and liam then i guess it doesnt matter who is behind them on stage.
 
theres a bit of a difference bonehead, a peripheral figure in a band leaving to bruce dickinson, the focal point of the band leaving, dont you think?
and besides, didnt iron maiden 'cheat' the singles chart one year just so they could have a number one single? hardly the work of briatains best band i would say!:PDT_Xtremez_42:
 
mcdoodle said:
theres a bit of a difference bonehead, a peripheral figure in a band leaving to bruce dickinson, the focal point of the band leaving, dont you think?
and besides, didnt iron maiden 'cheat' the singles chart one year just so they could have a number one single? hardly the work of briatains best band i would say!:PDT_Xtremez_42:
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OK, so you disagree with him, but no need to start insulting people.

Why does losing a singer make it a different band? Most people like a band for their overall sound, which is generally the work of the guys behind the singer.

Try telling Genesis that they are not the same band any more because Peter Gabriel left them, or maybe Pink Floyd. The list goes on and on for bands who have replaced singers and are still going strong.
 
MingMong said:
OK, so you disagree with him, but no need to start insulting people.

Why does losing a singer make it a different band? Most people like a band for their overall sound, which is generally the work of the guys behind the singer.

Try telling Genesis that they are not the same band any more because Peter Gabriel left them, or maybe Pink Floyd. The list goes on and on for bands who have replaced singers and are still going strong.
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ming mong, i hope you were being deliberately obtuse there, lol. bonehead was the geezer in oasis(damn! you hooked me)
of course genesis were a different band when peter gabriel left. I n fact there was a bbc programme on about it a few weeks ago. the sound was totally different.
and i'm not saying that a band fails because it replaces its singer, but the band changes
 
My mistake,

Funny how the way you read a sentence can make it read totally differently than was originally intended :)
 
actually, i missed a comma, and choked on my red wine when i read your comments, lol
(red wine hurts when it comes through the nose):PDT_Xtremez_30:
 
roverboy said:
Dave Murray I think as well, as he and SH were good mates when they were young. Adrian Smith left and was replaced by Janick Gers, but came back as a 3rd guitarist. Clive Burr was replaced by Nicko McBrain on drums. There were several other changes really early on, but if you count from when the band were first taken seriously as artists (ie their first recorded album) I think that's about it mate
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Quite so RB I forgot Dave Murray. Clive Burr had to leave the band as he is suffering with Multiple Sclerosis.
Warning, this interview with clive may disturb you and you may not want to read it, but if you do, read it here.
 
mcdoodle said:
dont iron maiden have a different lead singer than the original line up?
then i would argue that it is almost like 2 bands
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You could say that about almost everyband mention on the thread. Oasis have scaked/lost at least four members since they formed, Robert Smith is ther only origiinal Cure member left, The Who have obviously lost 2 members, Pink Floyd have lost Roger Waters and Syd Barrett. Even my 2 choices (The Mission & New Order) don't have all of the original members. A band is a band regardless of who the current members are. They are often more succesful when they change the line-up. Steps for example, are a much better band now they have split up!
 
Man in Black said:
You could say that about almost everyband mention on the thread. Oasis have scaked/lost at least four members since they formed, Robert Smith is ther only origiinal Cure member left, The Who have obviously lost 2 members, Pink Floyd have lost Roger Waters and Syd Barrett. Even my 2 choices (The Mission & New Order) don't have all of the original members. A band is a band regardless of who the current members are. They are often more succesful when they change the line-up. Steps for example, are a much better band now they have split up!
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New Order are the same band when recording, Gillian Gilbert has chosen not to play live on tour, prefering to spend time with her and Steven's children. The keyboardist/guitarist that has replaced her live is an awesome musician though! Saw them live in Newcastle last year and it was easily the best gig I have seen them play. Musically an assault on the ears! Couldn't hear for 2 days, that's a gig!
 
NotAnIDOYet said:
New Order are the same band when recording, Gillian Gilbert has chosen not to play live on tour, prefering to spend time with her and Steven's children. The keyboardist/guitarist that has replaced her live is an awesome musician though! Saw them live in Newcastle last year and it was easily the best gig I have seen them play. Musically an assault on the ears! Couldn't hear for 2 days, that's a gig!
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My fault, I was a bit vague. I was actually referring to the fact Ian Curtis is no longer with us and obviously neither are Joy Division. Although Barney, Hooky & Stephen have recorded as Joy Division for the soundtrack to the film 'Control' which is about Ian Curtis' all too short life. Still not the original band though before some smart ar$e makes comment...
 
To be honest - some bands survive line-up changes - others do not.
For instance - the Jam are back on tour - minus Paul Weller.
I, for one, do not consider it the Jam without him, even though Bruce & Rick are playing with a new vocalist. It would not be right.
 
katinthehat said:
To be honest - some bands survive line-up changes - others do not.
For instance - the Jam are back on tour - minus Paul Weller.
I, for one, do not consider it the Jam without him, even though Bruce & Rick are playing with a new vocalist. It would not be right.
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also, (and i do hate to use this as an example), there are 3 bucks fizz's on the go at the moment, one without ANY of the original members, or any members from when they vaguely successful:PDT_Xtremez_14:
 
mcdoodle said:
also, (and i do hate to use this as an example), there are 3 bucks fizz's on the go at the moment, one without ANY of the original members, or any members from when they vaguely successful:PDT_Xtremez_14:
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McDoodle, the fact you even know this is a tad disturbing!
 
as i said, i hate to use this as an example, and i'm not proud of it, lol
but my point still stands, a band changes when the lead singer is replaced and arent the same band:
for example, are queen still queen without freddie mercury? would the smashing pumpkins be the same without billy corgan? the killers without brandon flowers?
i think the answer is no to all 3, so therefore they arent the same band!!!
 
anyway. . back to the original thread for a moment

anyway. . back to the original thread for a moment

MUSE

travelled from ISL to watch them play to a packed wembley stadium last week and they were awesome. Supported by Biffy Clyro who are a band to watch out for in the future . . . . . . and to all those My Chemical Romance fans - they were sh1te.
 
Rectifier said:
MUSE

travelled from ISL to watch them play to a packed wembley stadium last week and they were awesome. Supported by Biffy Clyro who are a band to watch out for in the future . . . . . . and to all those My Chemical Romance fans - they were sh1te.
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I didnt think anyone over 15 listened to MCR?:PDT_Xtremez_15:
 
MCR - Kerrang reader fodder.

I was in Earls Court a few weeks ago when the "Give It A Name" festival was on. I've never seen so many clones trying to look individual !

Eye liner - check
Studded belt - check
Skinny jeans hanging off arse - check
Converse hi-tops - check
MCR t-shirt - check
Bag with 100 badges on it - check

I am so cool....:PDT_Xtremez_32:
 
mcdoodle said:
I didnt think anyone over 15 listened to MCR?:PDT_Xtremez_15:
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Well, i'm 38, a lifelong rock/metal fan, and I actually think MCR are pretty good!
The only reason I didn't watch their whole set at Download Festival was because they clashed with Korn.
They play their own instruments, write their own songs, and for me they were surprisingly good at Wembley when supporting Muse. Oh, and when Gerard Way sings, at least you can hear what he is singing, unlike a lot of metal bands around at the moment!
 
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