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Hi, I'm want to transfer to the branch and know that I'll be asked:
Who is the Senior Officer in the Branch?
Who is Officer in Charge of the Branch?
Easy to google the personalities at the next higher level but can't find these - asked an A1 chap but he didn't know.

Please help
 
Seems like an easy enough question Manta but with all the re-organisation that's going on I really wouldn't like to say for sure! The Air Sec used to be the top man although he wouldn't necessarily be an Adminer; now ACOS Maning is at HW I don't know the Organisation setup as I now work for NATO. The person in charge of the trade would be the Trade Sponsor although that post is now vacant unless it's been filled recently. TBH, if you answered Tommo9999 to both questions, you wouldn't be far wrong!!
 
Ask a friendly adminner on your unit. They will know.
 
Wouldn't you ask the desk in that case? I'd hope they would know.
 
Senior Officer would be, I assume, ACOS A1 at Air - name freely available via the A1 website. Trade sponsor details on there too. The A1 website is easily accessed through the RAF Intranet front page, once you get over the annoying 'post-it note' layout it is actually quite easy to use and has loads of org charts, as well as other good gen.

p.s. Why the identical thread in the Supply forum? I know there are less and less of us so dual hatting is inevitable, but I'm sure you can only be one branch at a time!!!
 
Admin and Supply

Admin and Supply

Yes thinking of both branches and everyone keeps saying they'll, at least in part (perhaps just the air movements part? - with those lovely posts in Washington etc), merge in the future. Anyway I know the answer now, the branch is ably led by Gp Capt(?) tommo 9999 (KC OBE (?)).
Looked for the answer on the Intranet and for most trades (ie Int, PTI) it is very simply, there's a senior officer and sponsor, this isn't the case for admin and I keep getting different answer even from within the trade. Bit bizarre!
 
manta said:
Looked for the answer on the Intranet and for most trades (ie Int, PTI) it is very simply, there's a senior officer and sponsor, this isn't the case for admin and I keep getting different answer even from within the trade. Bit bizarre!
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It used to be very simple - we had an Air Officer Administration, an AVM who was the head of the branch and invariably a member of the Admin branch. The last incumbent was AVM Andy Burton, I think. Now we have Chief of Staff Personnel/Air Secretary who is currently AVM Simon Bryant, a navigator by training.

Presumably he is the head of the Admin branch but I wouldn't like to swear to it.
 
I thought the head of the Branch was AVM Chisnall. Highest ranking is DCDS(Pers) AM Pocock.

COS Pers is not head of the Branch.

Branch sponsor - can't quite remember his name works for ACOS A1 who fills probably the day to day 'headship' of the Branch.
 
If we want to get into specifics AMP is the Principle Personnel Officer in the RAF, although not head of branch per say.
 
woollymouse said:
The AMP is a pilot so I wouldn't really put him down for branch senior officer, would you?
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Wolly,

No i would not say he was my point was that he was the Principle Personnel Officer for the RAF. Do we actually have a branch senior officer? I thought that DCDS(Pers) was tri-Service post as the current bod is a VAdml.
 
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But neither of which are identifiable RAF Admin (Sec) Officers, which is what the orginal question was asking. As it stands DACOS A1 is probably the most senior with direct day to day dealings with A1 aspects.

Unlike some other branches, there is no longer a direct sponsor/head of branch which is possibly why the branch is often at a disadvantage in fighting its corner.
 
Reformed Scribbly said:
But neither of which are identifiable RAF Admin (Sec) Officers, which is what the orginal question was asking. As it stands DACOS A1 is probably the most senior with direct day to day dealings with A1 aspects.

Do you not mean ACOS A1, Air Cdre Beet as he is Admin (Sec)?
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Shiney Pencil said:
Do you not mean ACOS A1, Air Cdre Beet as he is Admin (Sec)?
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He is, but there are more senior Admin(Sec) Air Cdres including The Hon D P Murray, Dave Tonks and others whose names escape me for the moment. There must be an AVM around somewhere too. Don't forget that from Wg Cdr upwards they lose their specialisations - OC BSW is as likely to be an Admin(Trg) as an Admin(Sec). For many years the head of branch was AVM Sherrington, a caterer.

Isn't it embarrassing that none of us know?!
 
True Blue Jack said:
Isn't it embarrassing that none of us know?!
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Yes but ask me if I'm surprised:PDT_Xtremez_28:

Not a dig at you guys just that there is so much re-org going around all over the place that unless someone keeps this sort of thing on a wallchart in their bedroom, its hard to keep track.

I would struggle to tell you any of the engineering structure above my station level so its not just with the admin world.

P.S. I thought Tommo was next in line for CAS!:PDT_Xtremez_42:
 
I couldn't be any worse than Broon!! The wages are okay and the expenses are out of this world. Can't wait to furnish my free flat in London with the latest John Lewis gear.
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