Cips

[The Logitician]

Looking into possibly taking a course, Level 3 or 4, just want to see if anyone else on egoat have done a CIPS course recently, how you found the course to be.

Having a CIPS qualification really enhances a CV with employers.

 

[Mad Dog]

What rank are you? Only reason I ask is that if you are a Cpl and have competed your TMT and JMLC you will get the CILT level 3 qualification by completing a Study pack, and will probably cost you less than a hundred notes after you claim back the cost on your Standard Learning credit. I think Snecs and above get to do the level 5 qualification but I don't think there are any programmes aimed at SAC level.

 

[The Logitician]

What rank are you? Only reason I ask is that if you are a Cpl and have competed your TMT and JMLC you will get the CILT level 3 qualification by completing a Study pack, and will probably cost you less than a hundred notes after you claim back the cost on your Standard Learning credit. I think Snecs and above get to do the level 5 qualification but I don't think there are any programmes aimed at SAC level.

SAC, i did not know that, CILT is somthing i have looked into but CIPS seems to be the way forward external job wise anyway. I think its a way of trying to find out what is best.

I believe the cost for the CILT level 3 is arounf £1500-2000, the cost of the CIPS through Durham Logistics college is £2199, luckily they are a member of ELC.

 

[Robby]

CILT or CIPS

CILT or CIPS

I understand the problem with CIPS is that it is not very flexible for our current 'lifestyle' of regular deployments due to exam dates etc . For this reason I took the CILT Diploma route through Logistics Learning Alliance - they were extremely flexible even giving me a course pack to deploy with and accepting work by fax/e-mail/CD or post!
CILT also had the advantage as being acceptable for credit towards a degree I am not sure if CIPS is? One other question with regard to CIPS is its applicability outside the Public Sector, and how long it stays current, I always understood that a lot of it is commercial procurement law which seems to change regularly so studying CIPS 5 or 6 years before you are due out may not be that useful- just a thought.

As for Durham College I have spoken to them about courses in the past but have never studied with them, have you asked the ELC what feedback they have received? All ELC students have to provide feedback at the conclusion of the course so they might be able to provide some feedback on the admin and tutor support they offer.

What ever you choose good luck, its not easy doing distance learning but once you get 'into it' I found it really rewarding.

 

[The Logitician]

I understand the problem with CIPS is that it is not very flexible for our current 'lifestyle' of regular deployments due to exam dates etc . For this reason I took the CILT Diploma route through Logistics Learning Alliance - they were extremely flexible even giving me a course pack to deploy with and accepting work by fax/e-mail/CD or post!
CILT also had the advantage as being acceptable for credit towards a degree I am not sure if CIPS is? One other question with regard to CIPS is its applicability outside the Public Sector, and how long it stays current, I always understood that a lot of it is commercial procurement law which seems to change regularly so studying CIPS 5 or 6 years before you are due out may not be that useful- just a thought.

As for Durham College I have spoken to them about courses in the past but have never studied with them, have you asked the ELC what feedback they have received? All ELC students have to provide feedback at the conclusion of the course so they might be able to provide some feedback on the admin and tutor support they offer.

What ever you choose good luck, its not easy doing distance learning but once you get 'into it' I found it really rewarding.

Thanks, not too sure about feed back from ELC, will look though. CILT was always my first choice, however speaking with and reading various information i came to my own conclusion that CIPS was the one. However after reading your reply i may have to re-think.

I was not aware about the changes with CIPS. I do however see myself working in a more logistical enviroment and not a purchasing one, so CILT would be the one.

Deploying very (very) soon, so will have to have a look/apply in the new year.

Can i ask, did you find it quite straight forward applying for ELC if thats what you used?

Which level in CILT did you take and how did you find it?

Has it or is it going to be very benificial in the outside world job wise?

Sorry forf all the questions.DT_Xtremez_14:

 

[Robby]

Civvy Supply (Logistics) Training

Civvy Supply (Logistics) Training

I was not aware about the changes with CIPS. I do however see myself working in a more logistical enviroment and not a purchasing one, so CILT would be the one. My only thoughts on this is that it evolves with changes in UK and European law so it may need regular updating and monitoring

Deploying very (very) soon, so will have to have a look/apply in the new year.

Can i ask, did you find it quite straight forward applying for ELC if thats what you used?I have just used ELC for the first time and I have found it very easy I applied on the 13 Aug and the letter is sat here ready to be handed over to my next training provider- simple (so far)

Which level in CILT did you take and how did you find it? I had an NVQ level 4 so went straight for the Diploma (level 5 at the time) and studied the logistics modules as opposed to the Transport Modules, as i said I used Logistics learning Alliance - they are very good and provided great support

Has it or is it going to be very benificial in the outside world job wise? The million pound question- I don't know- i'm still serving but having put my CV on a few web sites I get matched several times a week - so at least its getting read and key words/phrases picked up

Sorry forf all the questions.DT_Xtremez_14:[/QUOTE]
If you have any more PM me and I can go into more detail and give more contacts.

For anyone else looking at education in the Supply/Logistics world quite a few providers are offering courses so perhaps some feedback could be useful on this and the Stackers Forum

 

[shiloh26]

I beleive the school are doing a lot of work on things like this, beleive they have got a few exemptions for the CILT and were working on exemptions for the CIPS earlier this year, maybe worth giving them a ring

 

[The Logitician]

I beleive the school are doing a lot of work on things like this, beleive they have got a few exemptions for the CILT and were working on exemptions for the CIPS earlier this year, maybe worth giving them a ring

Ok, will ring Supply training. Thought i was fishing in the sea when i asked, did not realise i would get such a good response, cheers!

Can i presume that the exemptions are from TMT courses though?