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I've not done this for years but from memory, the only part PSF played was to provide a print out of your mileage claims. Also, the tax man reduced the journeys you could claim for, ie, you are no longer entitled to claim for sport and hospital visits. If you phone the tax office, they'll send you the form you need to complete.
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Im currently going through this process as well as many others ont he Squadron, ive just received notification for a £2030 tax rebate for my HTD costs over 6 years. The rules change as of January the 31st but a welcome boost nevertheless.
Not bad for a 36 round mile journey a day.
Not bad for a 36 round mile journey a day.
by rule change do you mean it's stopped or just made more difficult?
really?
really?
SSSHHHHHHhhhhh.....pretty sure normal HTD does not count. The only stuff you could claim for was travel due to work. Using your car to go on a course or different unit for duty reasons.
I suppose you could say your first unit was your work address and then every time you were posted you were at a different location?
really?
SSSHHHHHHhhhhh.....pretty sure normal HTD does not count. The only stuff you could claim for was travel due to work. Using your car to go on a course or different unit for duty reasons.
I suppose you could say your first unit was your work address and then every time you were posted you were at a different location?
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Bang on. IN the real world, this would mean the ability to claim the tax back on commuting and that would relieve the government of the vast majority of its fuel tax revenues.
So he is right. Shhhh, or stay ever prepared to pay it back. HTD is a forces only privillege.
So he is right. Shhhh, or stay ever prepared to pay it back. HTD is a forces only privillege.
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Absolutely no entitlement for claiming the tax back on HTD as far as I'm aware.
BillyBunter
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The rules state in a period of 2 years or less you have to have been assigned to another unit or in other words JPa moved. I have been deployed every year for the last 5 years through JPA overseas thus making me not a Permanent place of work for over 2 years.
If you call the tax people they will more than helpfull as they were with me and I got the info from guys been paid as there is a calculator been written to calculate your yearly rebate and a simple plan you fill out to fill in the P87.
As for the changes, yes as of January 31st 2012 you can only claim back a maximimum of 4 years instead of 6.
Anyway I posted this a while back and the Mods deleted it saying I was speaking nosh.
DT_Xtremez_31:
If you call the tax people they will more than helpfull as they were with me and I got the info from guys been paid as there is a calculator been written to calculate your yearly rebate and a simple plan you fill out to fill in the P87.
As for the changes, yes as of January 31st 2012 you can only claim back a maximimum of 4 years instead of 6.
Anyway I posted this a while back and the Mods deleted it saying I was speaking nosh.
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Deployments are temporary assignments though and therefore do not affect your permanent place of work.
I really think you are on dodgy ground and I would hate to see you lose your pension over a misunderstanding about a mere £2K. I urge you to make sure of your position before you spend the cash. If it turns out you are in the wrong, you will not be able to claim advice from HMRC as your defence.
I really think you are on dodgy ground and I would hate to see you lose your pension over a misunderstanding about a mere £2K. I urge you to make sure of your position before you spend the cash. If it turns out you are in the wrong, you will not be able to claim advice from HMRC as your defence.
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Yes you are right , and i shall have a tax bill thats a bugger next year. Forget what i said but if people who want to know about tax relief on fuel duty journeys then i suggest not going to PSF are they are all ****s.
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Tidied for you.
Hi just incase any of you want to reclaim this....
Went onto JPA earlier (avoided PSF). Got a print out of all mileage claims over past 5 years. (Expenses,all expenses then select go without filling in details). You can claim back 6 years!! Printed out a P87 from HMRC website.http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/p87.pdf. Calculated journey at 25p/mile and then at HMRC recommended 40p/mile. Then just claimed back the difference. Turns out a nice little tax rebate of £556.
This is real mileage (not HTD, medical etc).
Will let you know if all goes well. Hopefully everyone can get a nice rebate.DT_Xtremez_30:
Went onto JPA earlier (avoided PSF). Got a print out of all mileage claims over past 5 years. (Expenses,all expenses then select go without filling in details). You can claim back 6 years!! Printed out a P87 from HMRC website.http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/p87.pdf. Calculated journey at 25p/mile and then at HMRC recommended 40p/mile. Then just claimed back the difference. Turns out a nice little tax rebate of £556.
This is real mileage (not HTD, medical etc).
Will let you know if all goes well. Hopefully everyone can get a nice rebate.
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Me too. I spent what will hopefully be a very productive hour tracking back my claims on JPA, particularly in the summer of 2006 when I did almost 2000 miles!
Here's hoping to a large cheque!
Here's hoping to a large cheque!
Hi just incase any of you want to reclaim this....
Went onto JPA earlier (avoided PSF). Got a print out of all mileage claims over past 5 years. (Expenses,all expenses then select go without filling in details). You can claim back 6 years!! Printed out a P87 from HMRC website.http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/forms/p87.pdf. Calculated journey at 25p/mile and then at HMRC recommended 40p/mile. Then just claimed back the difference. Turns out a nice little tax rebate of £556.
This is real mileage (not HTD, medical etc).
Will let you know if all goes well. Hopefully everyone can get a nice rebate.
I suggest you do it again, this time claim back the difference between the rate you get and 45p per mile for this year which is the HMRC rate for 2011/12, you've claimed the 2010/11 rate. http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/travel.htm
Edited to add: I realised as soon as I posted this what a biff I was, you'll claim 45p next year!
But incidentally, if you are claiming back consistent amounts for each year you can ask HMRC to adjust your tax code which they will do and it will save filling out the form, many of our guys with company car allowance do this only filling out the form when they have a particularly inconsistent year (good or bad)
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If HMRC adjust the tax code, then wouldn't we need to submit evidence of mileage each year anyway?
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Forgive me for being an admin biff, but I am currently trying to claim back tax relief on my duty journeys and am having real dramas with the J1 at my unit.
I am on a tri-service unit (for that read Army) and our auditor who would normally be the one to process this sort of request has basically said no, they refuse to help. Initially they said they had no record on JPA of my historical claims, so I spoke to my unit Admin Officer who made a few phone calls to SVPA and a couple of other friends and got a contact at Innsworth on some JPA data team. Again, got a no, we can't help but confirmed that our Auditor was telling porkies and could access all my claims. So I pressed them and funny old thing it went up the chain and the Major wrote back very politely telling me to get stuffed, they were far too busy to process my request, but did print out an Excel spreadsheet with the dates and amounts of claims.
Despite their gash attitude, I think I have most of the data I need in my diaries which I keep for record purposes, so I can pin down what journeys I made when. But I then need to work out how much of the claim was for mileage and for that I need to get the historical MMA rates - that is proving to be a problem.
So would anyone be able to help an admin biff out and tell me where I can find historical MMA rates going back 5 years? I have already looked for old copies of the JSP 752(?) but can only find more recent versions online. I have even looked in the AFPRB reports with no luck. Grateful for any steers - or better still if anyone knows the MMA rates going back to about April 2006 that would be much appreciated.
Does that work for everyone or do you have Admin / Auditor permissions? That was the first thing I tried and it came up with nothing
I am on a tri-service unit (for that read Army) and our auditor who would normally be the one to process this sort of request has basically said no, they refuse to help. Initially they said they had no record on JPA of my historical claims, so I spoke to my unit Admin Officer who made a few phone calls to SVPA and a couple of other friends and got a contact at Innsworth on some JPA data team. Again, got a no, we can't help but confirmed that our Auditor was telling porkies and could access all my claims. So I pressed them and funny old thing it went up the chain and the Major wrote back very politely telling me to get stuffed, they were far too busy to process my request, but did print out an Excel spreadsheet with the dates and amounts of claims.
Despite their gash attitude, I think I have most of the data I need in my diaries which I keep for record purposes, so I can pin down what journeys I made when. But I then need to work out how much of the claim was for mileage and for that I need to get the historical MMA rates - that is proving to be a problem.
So would anyone be able to help an admin biff out and tell me where I can find historical MMA rates going back 5 years? I have already looked for old copies of the JSP 752(?) but can only find more recent versions online. I have even looked in the AFPRB reports with no luck. Grateful for any steers - or better still if anyone knows the MMA rates going back to about April 2006 that would be much appreciated.
Does that work for everyone or do you have Admin / Auditor permissions? That was the first thing I tried and it came up with nothing
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You look at your claims history on JPA - Its nothing to do with HR as this is between you and the tax office.
Each one will tell you how many miles you did and how much MMA was paid, then you work it out with a calculator and input it on the HMRC Form that you download from their site, claiming the difference between what you were paid and what it would have been at 40p per mile. The HMRC rate hasnt changed over the past 6 years. It can (and should) all be done by you - just needs a bit of time and effort on your part - I've done it and my claim is sat with the tax office at the moment - I'm just waiting on the outcome.
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I was under the impression you couldn't claim back tax relief between your home address and permanent place of work. You could only claim if you had to go to another place of work. I work in the NHS and my trust has several sites. I can't claim from home to were I normally work only if I have to go on a course or work at another site. I might be wrong.