continuence and resettlement

[petesdragon]

Starting resettlement in June, thinking about continuence as when I am due to leave my son will be 15 and in the middle of his GCSE's, have been advised to apply in Jan 2010( 18 months left) I am going to start resettlement and use an ELC but if I do get signed on will I have to pay any monies back that I have used? also I am only looking at doing a year 'extra' but can I tell the RAF this? as I think that they can tell me to leave with 6 months notice and I can give the RAF 3 months notice , but that leave's me 3 months to sort resettlement courses out can I give them more notice to get my arse in gear? anyway thanks for any good info

 

[mick-a-nick]

Currently doing resettlement myself. Check with the resettlement clerk / education as I believe that if you were entitled to resettlement then change contract (sign on) then there is no requirement to pay any monies back.
Good Luck

 

[Bucc Boy]

Starting resettlement in June, thinking about continuence as when I am due to leave my son will be 15 and in the middle of his GCSE's, have been advised to apply in Jan 2010( 18 months left) I am going to start resettlement and use an ELC but if I do get signed on will I have to pay any monies back that I have used? also I am only looking at doing a year 'extra' but can I tell the RAF this? as I think that they can tell me to leave with 6 months notice and I can give the RAF 3 months notice , but that leave's me 3 months to sort resettlement courses out can I give them more notice to get my arse in gear? anyway thanks for any good info

On resettlement now myself and out next month. Now my understanding of the situation is............If you resign on/continuance then your present resettlement ceases immediately. You then have to do 2 years service from that point to be entitled to the full resettlement package again. However if you either leave or apply to leave (not sure which) within the 2 year period then you just continue from what is left of your previous entitlement. No refunds are required. Sounds like a good scam if you could bear put up with another 2 years. Personally I couldn’t and the PVR stands, recession or not.

 

[K9 FORNICATOR]

Resettlement Continuance Advice.

Resettlement Continuance Advice.

On resettlement now myself and out next month. Now my understanding of the situation is............If you resign on/continuance then your present resettlement ceases immediately. You then have to do 2 years service from that point to be entitled to the full resettlement package again. However if you either leave or apply to leave (not sure which) within the 2 year period then you just continue from what is left of your previous entitlement. No refunds are required. Sounds like a good scam if you could bear put up with another 2 years. Personally I couldn’t and the PVR stands, recession or not.

I am afraid BB you are mistaken! I have recently obtained three years continuance beginning September of this year. Had a 'run in' with the Regional Resettlement Officer over this very issue. Upshot is - You are still entitled to pursue your resettlement plans in preparation for a hasty 3 month exit. You will not however get a further resettlement entitlement if you continue to do a further two years of your continuance. Namely you only get one bite of the resettlement cherry and it can be taken from your original entitlement period before your continuance starts. Hope this makes sense. PM me if you need any ammunition for your Regional Resettlement Officer in the event of him being ar5y!

 

[rumblefish]

On resettlement now myself and out next month. Now my understanding of the situation is............If you resign on/continuance then your present resettlement ceases immediately. You then have to do 2 years service from that point to be entitled to the full resettlement package again. However if you either leave or apply to leave (not sure which) within the 2 year period then you just continue from what is left of your previous entitlement. No refunds are required. Sounds like a good scam if you could bear put up with another 2 years. Personally I couldn’t and the PVR stands, recession or not.

I am with Bucc Boy on this, I have recently in the last couple of weeks had my mandatory 2 yr resettlement brief. I was told at the brief that if i was to sign on for further service then my resettlement would cease, however after completing a further 2 yrs service i would be entitled to the full resettlement package again.

 

[K9 FORNICATOR]

Fight Your Corner!

Fight Your Corner!

I am with Bucc Boy on this, I have recently in the last couple of weeks had my mandatory 2 yr resettlement brief. I was told at the brief that if i was to sign on for further service then my resettlement would cease, however after completing a further 2 yrs service i would be entitled to the full resettlement package again.

'Told by whom?' I too was told the same information but challenged it through the appropriate channels. Continuance of Service has not been taken into account in the resettlement programme. You are not signing on for 'further Service' but 'continuance' your terms and conditions have changed to the 3 and 6 month notice terms. Fight your corner I am doing resettlement and I am not out until September 2012. PM me if you wish to use my situation to aid your resettlement. I am not the only individual on Station in that situation.

 

[fileeth]

As i understand (adminers will no doudt correct) there are different rules for continuance than there are for signing on - which means BB and K9 could both be correctDT_Xtremez_21:

 

[Bucc Boy]

As i understand (adminers will no doudt correct) there are different rules for continuance than there are for signing on - which means BB and K9 could both be correctDT_Xtremez_21:

We're both DF's, of course we're both right!
K9 I don't know the in’s and out's of continuance but imagine the situation of my work mate who did all his resettlement 3 years ago, then got promoted and signed on at the last minute. Potentially 10 years down the line your argument would suggest he will leave without any (up to date) resettlement courses under his belt.

Continuance, I concede is probably a whole new kettle of fish.

 

[Justacabbie]

As far as I see it, knowing someone who was in your situation. If you have done a course then its done and you dont have to pay back. If you have booked a course and are offered continuance and you have signed the chitty to accept continuance then you'll be liable for the costs of the course, or any cancellation. Your resettlement from that point on will be cancelled and youll just soldier on till you reach your last 2 years when itll all start again with new allowance.

On the face of it I would suggest slamming as much resettlement in as you can then they cant take it back off you. Obviously use it wisely though cos if they dont sign you on you'll have used it all up.

Hope this helps

 

[K9 FORNICATOR]

I'm a DF it must be my mistake your fault!

I'm a DF it must be my mistake your fault!

We're both DF's, of course we're both right!
K9 I don't know the in’s and out's of continuance but imagine the situation of my work mate who did all his resettlement 3 years ago, then got promoted and signed on at the last minute. Potentially 10 years down the line your argument would suggest he will leave without any (up to date) resettlement courses under his belt.

Continuance, I concede is probably a whole new kettle of fish.

Liked the quote about us both being right! Being a 'DF' it could always be a case invariably of 'My mistake but somebody elses fault!

You are correct in your assumption that someone who has already had their resettlement entitlement who then through promotion or other circumstances signs on again will get another bite of the resettlement cherry, this will only happen after a further two years of service though.

Nevertheless continuance is currently offerred as a maximum duration of three years only. As explained to me you are not signing on again but 'continuing your service under a completely different set of terms. To be able to carry out your resettlement entitlement early unlike those that 'sign on again' you will not get another entitlement two years into your continuance.

I think it purely depends on how supportive the resettlement officer may be with regards to your situation on the day! Mine wasn't and I addressed my case through the TD Flight O/C and 'came up trumps!'