Diabetes

[bluetonic]

Can anyone confirm as to what would happen, with regards to your career, if you were to be suddenly diagnosed with Diabetes?

Would it be an immediate medical discharge, get out the quarter etc etc..

Many thanks in advance.

 

[dunbar1983]

my mate found out he had it while serving and he just served out his contract of 9 years then was not signed on. I dont know if thats the rule of thumb though.

 

[Tashy_Man]

Can anyone confirm as to what would happen, with regards to your career, if you were to be suddenly diagnosed with Diabetes?

Would it be an immediate medical discharge, get out the quarter etc etc..

Many thanks in advance.

I don't know the answer with regards the RAF but I wouldn't have thought so, although you may get temp downgraded until they know it's stable and you can control it.

I'm guessing if you've been diagnosed with type 2 you will initially be trying to control it through diet, then maybe tablets and diet.

Even if you get to the stage where you have to use injected insulin you can still continue with life you just have to monitor your body more closely.

I'm sure a medic/admin bod will know and be on soon.......hope it works out for you, I got diagnosed the week after I left the RAF !

Crack on................DT_Xtremez_09:

 

[Sospan]

I know 3 people that have been diagnosed but the last one was about 5 years ago, so the policy might have changed since then. The were all insulin injectors and they were all allowed to serve their time out but now allowed to sing any further service.

 

[timaloy]

maybe a med marker as g2, I have a dietry disease, I've been downgraded, stuck in the uk and if i ever get upgraded it'll be with a g2 marker

 

[penfold93]

Depends on the type of diabetes you have, if diet and tablets then as long as you exercise and eat well and your blood sugar levels are stable then carry on possibly with a downgrading.

If you require insulin then its usually a long process getting used to injecting and getting the dosage right for thetype of insulin you will be taking. You will be downgraded and cannot deploy. This is due to a number of factors.

For the proper gen see your SMO, there are other medics on here who may give you a more accurate response

 

[muttywhitedog]

my mate found out he had it while serving and he just served out his contract of 9 years then was not signed on. I dont know if thats the rule of thumb though.

Someone on my Sqn was diagnosed last year and was immediately prevented from working on aircraft.

He now has a permanent downgrade and has been moved off 1st line to a more admin-based role within the TG1 world. He will never work on aircraft again, but he was most definately not kicked out. Because of his downgrade he will not get any further service.

HTH.

 

[bluetonic]

Many thanks,

I personally have not been diagnosed with the condition, lots of my family have though and there is a strong possibility in the future i will too.

Cheers for the info so far.

 

[Talk Wrench]

Someone on my Sqn was diagnosed last year and was immediately prevented from working on aircraft.

He now has a permanent downgrade and has been moved off 1st line to a more admin-based role within the TG1 world. He will never work on aircraft again, but he was most definately not kicked out. Because of his downgrade he will not get any further service.

HTH.

Typical MWD response.DT_Xtremez_25:

I knew people in the RAF who were NOT prevented from working on aircraft because of diabetes. I know guys who are still IN the RAF and are working on aircraft after diagnosis.

I know plenty of guys out here in civvy street who have diabetes and are not precluded from working on aircraft.

If Occ Health have no probs, then it's a simple as that.

As for the RAF medical downgradement side, I suppose it's all down to individual cases.

Get sorted, fight your corner.

Good luck.

TW

 

[Joe_90]

Someone on my Sqn was diagnosed last year and was immediately prevented from working on aircraft.

He now has a permanent downgrade and has been moved off 1st line to a more admin-based role within the TG1 world. He will never work on aircraft again, but he was most definately not kicked out. Because of his downgrade he will not get any further service.

HTH.

I have to ask why? Diabetes wont affect their mental abilities at all unless they let sugar levels drop dangerously low which when working on aircraft is probably no more dangerous than letting people work dehydrated. People with diabetes are still allowed to drive and carry out numerous other dangerous tasks in the world, what's special about your squadron? I know 2 techies who were diagnosed with diabetes and both served out the contracts they were on and both still carried on in the same job.

 

[muttywhitedog]

Typical MWD response.DT_Xtremez_25:

You really are a fecking chod of the highest order.

The armourer concerned was initially made line controller, then moved to the QCIT as soon as a slot became vacant.

I was pointing out that he was not kicked out and that he still had a job, albeit with limitations.

Grow up FFS.

 

[Talk Wrench]

Someone on my Sqn was diagnosed last year and was immediately prevented from working on aircraft.

He now has a permanent downgrade and has been moved off 1st line to a more admin-based role within the TG1 world. He will never work on aircraft again, but he was most definately not kicked out. Because of his downgrade he will not get any further service.

HTH.

Your very own words MWD

You really are a fecking chod of the highest order.

Well, thank you for that! I'll treasure your remark.

I was pointing out that he was not kicked out and that he still had a job, albeit with limitations.

But you weren't just pointing that out. You were quick to jump in and shout out that the said person will never work on aircraft again. Something that I believe you secretly rejoice in/

Grow up FFS.

If I grew up, I'd have to bring myself down to your level.

TW

 

[Lanckielad]

Sorry to interupt your little spat and drag the original topic back up. I was formally diagnosed with type 2 diabetes Apr 08 whilst serving overseas and was temp downgraded for 6 months while assessments were made as to my ability to control through diet. I lost a little weight, changed my diet and my attitude, monitored my blood sugars daily for three months and was upgraded back to A4G1Z1. I completed my tour and have had no job or posting restrictions. PM if there is anything else I can help with

 

[bluetonic]

Sorry to interupt your little spat and drag the original topic back up. I was formally diagnosed with type 2 diabetes Apr 08 whilst serving overseas and was temp downgraded for 6 months while assessments were made as to my ability to control through diet. I lost a little weight, changed my diet and my attitude, monitored my blood sugars daily for three months and was upgraded back to A4G1Z1. I completed my tour and have had no job or posting restrictions. PM if there is anything else I can help with

Thanks for that mate and good luck with it.

 

[MrMasher]

I know of an officer who has diabetes; he gave it away when he got a needle out and stabbed himself one day!

It's not held him back, promotion and a posting overseas is coming up for him.

 

[gemarriott]

The key to managing diabetes is to only drink German beer.

Fact! all the sugar has turned to alcohol so it's practically a health drink as far as diabetics are concernedDT_Xtremez_42:

 

[Tashy_Man]

The key to managing diabetes is to only drink German beer.

Fact! all the sugar has turned to alcohol so it's practically a health drink as far as diabetics are concernedDT_Xtremez_42:

Well I do ok on a well known belgian beer.....keeps me going on my time off.......in fact nearly time for one DT_Xtremez_14:

Crack on.............DT_Xtremez_09:

 

[timbo_66]

The key to managing diabetes is to only drink German beer.

Fact! all the sugar has turned to alcohol so it's practically a health drink as far as diabetics are concernedDT_Xtremez_42:

As a type 2 diabetic (non insulin dependent) who was forced to leave after 22 years service because of the condition. I've got to take issue with gemarriotts quote. Diabetes is not about sugar, it is about your body not being able to produce enough insulin to cope with carbohydrates in your body (of which, sugar is one). As any alcoholic drink, German or not, is basically a carbohydrate rich drink, all diabetics must watch what they drink. General guidelines is to drink very moderately, preferably with a meal.

 

[gemarriott]

As a type 2 diabetic (non insulin dependent) who was forced to leave after 22 years service because of the condition. I've got to take issue with gemarriotts quote. Diabetes is not about sugar, it is about your body not being able to produce enough insulin to cope with carbohydrates in your body (of which, sugar is one). As any alcoholic drink, German or not, is basically a carbohydrate rich drink, all diabetics must watch what they drink. General guidelines is to drink very moderately, preferably with a meal.

Obviously slept through the classes on sarcasm,irony and black humour then!

 

[muttywhitedog]

But you weren't just pointing that out. You were quick to jump in and shout out that the said person will never work on aircraft again. Something that I believe you secretly rejoice in

His words, not mine.

No I didnt rejoice. Like everyone else on 1(F) Sqn I was gutted to see our Groundcrew Ents Chairman leave. He was the sort of person every Sqn needs, and every effort was made to keep him.