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Good day all.

First off, thank you to all of you that gave me some good gen reference getting out and the process, it helped alot.

I've finally got a discharge date, and have been cleared to start my new job. However my discharge date is very soon, and at the time of discharge I will have still acrued 17 days worth of leave with no chance to fit them in before I go.

So my question is will I get this leave paid to me, or are they consigned to the depths of JPA never to be used?

Cheers once again
M2G
 
As far as I know they will just be lost, I don't think you get paid for them, in my job out here in civvy Straße we can buy extra days leave but we can't sell them back.

Not much help I know.
 
Mag2grid said:
Good day all.

First off, thank you to all of you that gave me some good gen reference getting out and the process, it helped alot.

I've finally got a discharge date, and have been cleared to start my new job. However my discharge date is very soon, and at the time of discharge I will have still acrued 17 days worth of leave with no chance to fit them in before I go.

So my question is will I get this leave paid to me, or are they consigned to the depths of JPA never to be used?

Cheers once again
M2G
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No such thing, count it as lost. You could always go to the mess and take a biscuit on your way out.:PDT_Xtremez_34:
 
Mag2grid said:
So my question is will I get this leave paid to me?
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Now That's Funny From what you have said before you've had several weeks of "gardening leave" while the RAF has worked out the technicalities of your discharge and now you want paying for unused annual leave!!!

Seriously, I'm sorry your RAF career didn't work out the way you hoped and I wish you well for the future.
 
Can't see you getting paid for it. If it's anything like the nhs leave is on a pro rata so many days for each month worked. So they give you so many days annual leave they are assuming you are going to stay for the full year. I should imagine it's the same for you. Most probably I'm wrong lol
 
Admin should give you a leaving date which will include your outstanding leave, if not kick off about it. Don't forget by law you have to have had 20 days minimum a year or you really can kick off as they are breaking the employment law of which the RAF now comes under.
 
Mag, how many 'gash' days did you have sat at home waiting for the RAF to sort out your discharge date? I suspect you are in credit and chasing after those 17 days is likely to cost you more than you stand to gain.
 
POW said:
Admin should give you a leaving date which will include your outstanding leave, if not kick off about it. Don't forget by law you have to have had 20 days minimum a year or you really can kick off as they are breaking the employment law of which the RAF now comes under.
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You said it 20 days a year minimum. Well the way I read it he's leaving before a full years up. You just can't have all your leave for the full year and then decide to leave after 6 months.? Most leave is pro rata in civvy street
 
True Blue Jack said:
Mag, how many 'gash' days did you have sat at home waiting for the RAF to sort out your discharge date? I suspect you are in credit and chasing after those 17 days is likely to cost you more than you stand to gain.
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No gash days what so ever, paraded every weekday and working weekend when required. Its not like RAD/MASH/Biff flt at Cranwell, I actually had to come in and do crap jobs rather then kiss it off in the block.

In addition to the above, I used the formula they give in JSP 760 to work out your leave entitlement if you leave part way through the year (it works out to be [rounded up now] 3.12 days per month). Worked backward from my discharge date, came up with entitlement, subtracted days I had already taken and was left with the untaken entitlement.

Might sound like i am credit chasing, but when you have a mortgage and little ones to make sure are provided for, and no certainity that you are going to get a pay cheque from your new civvy employer this month(missed payroll by 1 day!) it really is a case of every penny counts. I had made provision for my departure from the service (ie a little bit of savings to make sure I could cover certain things) but would be nice to know I can afford to be petrol in the motor to get to work etc.
 
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Mag2grid said:
No gash days what so ever, paraded every weekday and working weekend when required. Its not like RAD/MASH/Biff flt at Cranwell, I actually had to come in and do crap jobs rather then kiss it off in the block.

In addition to the above, I used the formula they give in JSP 760 to work out your leave entitlement if you leave part way through the year (it works out to be [rounded up now] 3.12 days per month). Worked backward from my discharge date, came up with entitlement, subtracted days I had already taken and was left with the untaken entitlement.
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If you are getting nowere with PSF then write a polite letter stating the problem. Address it to the Chief Clarke and state you are going to seek professional advice if they don't explain why thier dates don't match yours. Be polite though, the Chief Clarkes are usually pretty good at solving/explaining the situation.

If you are right and it's a simple case of hard lines as far PSF are concerned, your best bet would be to go to somewhere like the Citizens Advice Bureau. They can help you with the legalities and if needs be they can take the case on should it get that far. To me, this looks like a bit of a mix up somewhere down the line, be it your maths or thier maths or somebodies interpretaion of the rules.
 
Mag2grid said:
No gash days what so ever, paraded every weekday and working weekend when required. Its not like RAD/MASH/Biff flt at Cranwell, I actually had to come in and do crap jobs rather then kiss it off in the block.

In addition to the above, I used the formula they give in JSP 760 to work out your leave entitlement if you leave part way through the year (it works out to be [rounded up now] 3.12 days per month). Worked backward from my discharge date, came up with entitlement, subtracted days I had already taken and was left with the untaken entitlement.

Might sound like i am credit chasing, but when you have a mortgage and little ones to make sure are provided for, and no certainity that you are going to get a pay cheque from your new civvy employer this month(missed payroll by 1 day!) it really is a case of every penny counts. I had made provision for my departure from the service (ie a little bit of savings to make sure I could cover certain things) but would be nice to know I can afford to be petrol in the motor to get to work etc.
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Comparing this with your previous thread, you appear to want both the penny and the bun.

http://www.e-goat.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=35566

When were you withdrawn from training? By my reckoning you will have had 3 - 4 months of paid employment following your decision to leave the RAF; time and pay that you would have been happy to forfeit just a few weeks ago.

Seek legal advice by all means but I will be very surprised if you achieve anything.

P.S. I spent 20 weeks on RAD Flt at Cranwell recovering from injury - I did many things in those weeks but kissing it off in the mess was not one of them.
 
FFS you are getting out as you want stop wanting the world to owe you something.......It really is your loss that YOU could not adjust to RAF life.

Crack on.....................:PDT_Xtremez_09:
 
I'm not getting into a ****ing contest but are you saying (with you reckoning they owe you 17 days) that you've had virtually no leave since the beginning of april
 
I carried ovr 15 days, used them up in June. Apart from Christmas stand down I hadnt had any leave inbetween (largely due to the holding position I had and starting phase 2)

TBJ - When you went through RAD did they use Maxus or VW Transporters to get around (not really relevant to this thread). Having done the Block 308 experience myself I might have had a slightly different experience to you.
 
Mag2grid said:
I carried ovr 15 days, used them up in June. Apart from Christmas stand down I havent had any leave since then.

TBJ - When you went through RAD did they use Maxus or VW Transporters to get around (not really relevant to this thread)
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I honestly think you should just get on with your life. Look to the future. We all get ****ed on in life. I know its got nothing to do with this topic put I applied for redundancy got accepted I got 20/22 years pension and gratuities etc but the galling thing was my discharge date was 2 days before I would have been in for 21 years. So if it had have been the the 30th April instead of the 27th of April I'd have been quids in. A years less gratuities for the sake of 2 days. You just get on with it. All that pension I've missed out on lol
 
True Blue Jack said:
Seek legal advice by all means but I will be very surprised if you achieve anything.

P.S. I spent 20 weeks on RAD Flt at Cranwell recovering from injury - I did many things in those weeks but kissing it off in the mess was not one of them.
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I am not disagreeing with you TBJ, I agree with this and other post on this matter. He Hasn't helped himself from the start and hasn't taken the advice given to him especially when he wanted to leave sharpish. Every body is seemingly against this type of person, just like my ex-pongo brother in law. Wants everything for minimal effort. He wont get the answer he want here but the CAB is independant and have no motives.
 
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