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Eating in the mess when on a Civvy Course\job

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Any Admin bods know the rules on this? If, for example, I live out and are in London working at a Contractors HQ, staying in a hotel paid for by them, if there was an RAF base 12 miles away could HR make me travel there for both my Lunch and Dinner. What if I finished late and could not make the mess? Or meal tickets are only sold at a certian time? Would I be entitled to claim Daily Subsistence? Any gen would be appreciated.
 
There would have to be transport available to get you there during your meal time I would have thought, check the JSP and interpret it as you see fit, that's what the audit clerks have got to do.
 
If the contractor is paying for the hotel, why is he not paying for your meals as well? I was working for NATS on an airspace trial a couple of years ago, as they needed a military ATCO, and they picked up the whole ish.

If the RAF was picking up the tab for the hotel, I would expect you to have been told to stay at the nearest Service establishment (distance from work/travelling time permitting) and mess there for breakfast and dinner and claim actuals for lunch. You state the the nearest camp is 12 miles away - a reasonable travelling time/distance at either end of the day but it would not be cost effective to make you do a 24 mile round trip for lunch.

Ultimately, costs lie where they fall, ie your unit pays for what you do if the contractor is not picking up your subsistence as well as the accomodation. You need sort this out with your unit budget manager before you claim, as he will need to authorise anything you claim on JPA.
 
orgASMic said:
If the contractor is paying for the hotel, why is he not paying for your meals as well? I was working for NATS on an airspace trial a couple of years ago, as they needed a military ATCO, and they picked up the whole ish.

If the RAF was picking up the tab for the hotel, I would expect you to have been told to stay at the nearest Service establishment (distance from work/travelling time permitting) and mess there for breakfast and dinner and claim actuals for lunch. You state the the nearest camp is 12 miles away - a reasonable travelling time/distance at either end of the day but it would not be cost effective to make you do a 24 mile round trip for lunch.

Ultimately, costs lie where they fall, ie your unit pays for what you do if the contractor is not picking up your subsistence as well as the accomodation. You need sort this out with your unit budget manager before you claim, as he will need to authorise anything you claim on JPA.
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A voice of reason. Mind you a 24 minute round trip means you'll be smashing 60mph the whole time, its too far. We regularly have the argument that working with undisclosed finishing times etc will sometimes not allow people to get to the mess. What if you can't leave between 1200-1300 or 1700-1800. If you were accomidated at a service establishment would you be able to claim for a meal?
 
Sticky fingers - look in JSP 752, chapter 3, section 3 for your entitlement to reclaim missed meal charges and section 4 to claim meals out allowance.
 
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orgASMic said:
Sticky fingers - look in JSP 752, chapter 3, section 3 for your entitlement to reclaim missed meal charges and section 4 to claim meals out allowance.
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MMP and MOA don't really apply in this situation, if you are more than 5 miles away from your unit for a period of over 5 hours then you should be subsistence.

What you need to find out is who is due to pay for it, if the contractor is paying for the hotel (or did he just book it and will you get a bill) then I would be expecting them to sort out your subsistence.

I'd be speaking to their admin bods then your line manager if no joy.
 
Its more complicated than that, we go there an awful lot. The Contractor picked up the bill this time but I want to get the jist of the rules for when the next time when they don't I don't get stuffed with having to buy meals for myself when we're working late etc...
 
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