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Hello, does anyone know if you can get a G2 marker upgraded back to G1 at the medical centre?

Thanks
 
I had my temp downgrade removed at the med centre. If it's a permanent marker then it'd be a tadge more difficult I'd wager.
 
I think you'll keep the G2, it's not a bad thing, it just means that you have some medical history.
 
MrMasher said:
I think you'll keep the G2, it's not a bad thing, it just means that you have some medical history.
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This came up in discussion today and none of the medics were able to give me a satisfactory answer. 2 questions really:

1. If a Unit upgrades an individual and recommends L1 why does an external Med Board have to ratify that decision and then have the powere to over-ride the SMO and change it to e.g L2?

2. L2 covers everything from "hearing loss to chronic illness" and is (I was told) a marker for medical staff. When I asked why a marker was required I was told "policy". In the P world we have markers too, they tell us specific things. Thus I presumed L2 would attract a caveat e.g. L2 (150) and the notes on 150 would say e.g. recovering alcoholic, back surgery etc. Then I could understand the purpose of a marker. However if I were to mark an individual's record with "previously jailed but ok now and fit for deployment" it would serve no purpose so why the need for an L2 marker?

Your thoughts appreciated.
 
To be honest, I have no idea!
I just knew that a G2 meant you had some med history in your file.
 
KingGuin said:
This came up in discussion today and none of the medics were able to give me a satisfactory answer. 2 questions really:

1. If a Unit upgrades an individual and recommends L1 why does an external Med Board have to ratify that decision and then have the powere to over-ride the SMO and change it to e.g L2?

2. L2 covers everything from "hearing loss to chronic illness" and is (I was told) a marker for medical staff. When I asked why a marker was required I was told "policy". In the P world we have markers too, they tell us specific things. Thus I presumed L2 would attract a caveat e.g. L2 (150) and the notes on 150 would say e.g. recovering alcoholic, back surgery etc. Then I could understand the purpose of a marker. However if I were to mark an individual's record with "previously jailed but ok now and fit for deployment" it would serve no purpose so why the need for an L2 marker?

Your thoughts appreciated.
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If I remember from my experience, the marker remains as an indication that the individual has had a serious illness and that there is the possibility of the individual suffering or a propensity to suffer the same illness again sometime in the future. As I said, I am talking from experience and memory and I seem to remember a case (don't know if you where there at the time KG) where an individual was given the all clear from a cancer episode after treatment, but he retained the marker as an indication that there is always the possibility that the individual may suffer from the same type of cancer again.

As for the rationale behind higher authority requiring to ratify the SMO's recommendation, I can only guess that they are removing the decision making authority on an individual's retention in service, etc, from the SMO, as there is always the possibility that the SMO cannot make the decision rationally as he/she is too close to the patient.
 
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You might well have had a serious illness and recovered from it. G2 marker awarded.
Doesn't matter if it's going reoccur or not. The G2 was just an indicator that something had happened in the past.

That's how it was explained to me at Henlow.
I was also told that someone permanently downgraded could be upgraded by the SMO.
It seems on here you are talking about this new JMES system.
Could you enlighten me on this equating it to the old A G Z system?
 
I've got a G2 marker, it's from when I had several shoulder Ops to put right a career of bad tackling.

I've been told I'll keep the marker but it doesn't have any effect on future postings or promotions, it's just a indication of previous injury/illness.

(in fact I've been promoted and ok'd for OOA since becoming G2).
 
G2 marker as has been said by many indicates a serious illness or injury that the individual has suffered in the past. It also gives Manning etc a guide so if an individual requests a certain role that for whatever reason may exacerbate the previous injury/illness then they could advise against it. It is there to protect both the individual and the RAF.

SMO's are not experts at Boarding individuals thats what Henlow is for, the board is made up from Gp Capts/Wg Cdrs who are very experienced GP's and Consultants in Occupational Health hence the reasons why upgradings have to be ratified.
 
I too have a G2 marker following a serious illness and have been told it will remain with me for my RAF service...interesting point and question as to why though that probably no-one knows the answer too - it will be one of those..it's always been done like that mate...scenarios I bet.

Ask the med bods at Manning and see what they say.:PDT_Xtremez_06:
 
raflad67 said:
I too have a G2 marker following a serious illness and have been told it will remain with me for my RAF service...interesting point and question as to why though that probably no-one knows the answer too - it will be one of those..it's always been done like that mate...scenarios I bet.

Ask the med bods at Manning and see what they say.:PDT_Xtremez_06:
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Interestingly the SMC suggested that course and I intend to pursue it; not through any sense of badness but just plain old curiosity. I accept all the (cheers Penfold) arguements but would like to determine what "illness" constitues the award. The AP is exceptionally vague and the QR no better. Perhaps the marker is for the OCD* that compells me to pursue things like this?

*feeble attempt at medical related humour!
 
KingGuin said:
Interestingly the SMC suggested that course and I intend to pursue it; not through any sense of badness but just plain old curiosity. I accept all the (cheers Penfold) arguements but would like to determine what "illness" constitues the award. The AP is exceptionally vague and the QR no better. Perhaps the marker is for the OCD* that compells me to pursue things like this?

*feeble attempt at medical related humour!
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Have you looked in both AP1269 and AP1269a (Possibly 1269a would be the most beneficial)

I will look tomorrow to see if I can find more info
 
I am living proof that you can be G2'd upto G1, or at least my Doc said so. I had a knee injury by the way, and was G1'd for OASC last year.
 
Skeedledee said:
I am living proof that you can be G2'd upto G1, or at least my Doc said so. I had a knee injury by the way, and was G1'd for OASC last year.
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It must have changed then, I got told that I would have G2 forever, regardless.
 
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