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Dhoby4u

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I know this has been discussed many times before, but I could do with some help.

Last night as I was coming back I passed a GATSO camera and it double flashed. I was DEFINATELY within the posted speed limit. Coming the other way was a car that appeared to be too fast.

My query is,

Could the camera flash the other car?

How does the camera know that it is him and not me that was speeding?

If I am down the tell tale lines, how does the camera/ bloke who looks at the piccy, not think I was the one speeding.

And, if I do get a NIP how can I prove my innocence?

Cheers.

Dhobs
 
I had this before and went onto site on tinternet to find out what the score is. Apparently this happens when a site has no actual ca,era fitted but just a cheap radar speed detector. The cheap ones cannot tell the difference between cars coming or going due to the negative Doppler effect and thus flashes cars in both directions. You should be safe, but dont quote me......ha ha!:PDT_Xtremez_19:
 
Even if you were snapped then, AFAIK, the camera takes two shots and measures your progress against the marks on the road. As long as you were below the limit you should be OK.
 
I too have had exactly the same happen to me. Sat nervously waiting for that special delivery through the post and nothing came.....don't worry about it is my advice!
 
On the bright side, if the road is known for being a "fast road" it might have already run out of film :PDT_Xtremez_14:
 
Many thanx to you all. If I get a NIP I'll let you know.

Cheers.
 
Dhoby4u said:
I know this has been discussed many times before, but I could do with some help.

Last night as I was coming back I passed a GATSO camera and it double flashed. I was DEFINATELY within the posted speed limit. Coming the other way was a car that appeared to be too fast.

My query is,

Could the camera flash the other car?

How does the camera know that it is him and not me that was speeding?

If I am down the tell tale lines, how does the camera/ bloke who looks at the piccy, not think I was the one speeding.

And, if I do get a NIP how can I prove my innocence?



Cheers.

Dhobs
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Was it a Gatso or a Truvello?? You can tell as it is badged on the camera, also the Gatso has square lenses and the Truvello has round lenses.

The Gatso can only snag you from behind, so were you going towards it or past it when it flashed??

The Truvello takes pictures from the front, again same question.

If you are summonsed and you protest you were within the speed limit, you need to take pictures of the camera and its locations, making sure you photo the displayed speed limits. You also need to ask the question of the cameras calibration, as this needs to be regularly carried out, and if it was out of cal your case will be dropped.

Hope this helps mate.
 
TrenchardsLoveSock said:
Even if you were snapped then, AFAIK, the camera takes two shots and measures your progress against the marks on the road. As long as you were below the limit you should be OK.
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TLS, the camera takes 2 measurements before it takes any further action. If it flashes then it has decided that the speed limit was broken. The purpose of the double flash is to eliminate the reflection from the number plate to make sure it is nice and clear.
 
scoobyroo said:
Was it a Gatso or a Truvello?? You can tell as it is badged on the camera, also the Gatso has square lenses and the Truvello has round lenses.

The Gatso can only snag you from behind, so were you going towards it or past it when it flashed??

The Truvello takes pictures from the front, again same question.

If you are summonsed and you protest you were within the speed limit, you need to take pictures of the camera and its locations, making sure you photo the displayed speed limits. You also need to ask the question of the cameras calibration, as this needs to be regularly carried out, and if it was out of cal your case will be dropped.

Hope this helps mate.
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The Truvello cameras are forward facing cameras and have a magenta lense and you will not see the FLASH so it must have been a Gatso... As mentioned earlier it takes two pictures and measures the distance travelled along the road compared to these lines so even if there are two cars overtaking each other they can tell which one was speeding... hope this helps dude..
 
Get off letter

Get off letter

The other day I was looking round the crew room for something to read, when I came across this. I am not saying that speeding is a good thing, so please don’t jump on me. However, we all know that the majority of speed cameras are unjust.

It’s a letter that you should send in when you receive a NIP.

Basically it should go like this:

If you were the driver, and you want to respond with a PACE statement, fill out the form by writing “please see attached” where it asks for details. Then attach a letter with the standard wording shown below. If you weren’t driving, you can name the driver who was and when they get their NIP they can then follow this procedure if thy wish.


(INSERT THEIR REFERENCE NUMBER HERE)

(INSERT YOUR REFERENCE NUMBER HERE)


Dear Chief Constable

Further to the above notice of Intended Prosecution, I confirm that the following individual was driving the above vehicle at the time of the alleged motoring offence:

(INSERT ALL OF THE DETAILS ASKED FOR ON THE NIP HERE, INCLUDING NAME, ADDRESS, DATE OF BIRTH AND DRIVERS NUMBER)

As this statement is provided under threat of criminal penalty (Funke v France) and as I have not received a caution required by paragraph 10.1 of PACE Code C (Mawdesley v the Chief Constable of Cheshire (2004) 1 All E.R.58.), I make this statement on the express understanding that it shall not be used of disclosed in a proceedings of whatever nature against myself.

Yours sincerely,


(INSERT YOUR SIGNATURE HERE)



(INSERT YOUR NAME IN PRINT HERE)



Oh yer! If an Officer then visits to caution you, only statements made AFTER the caution can be used- and a caution gives the right to silence.

You can also check out the web site it came from


http://www.pepipoo.com/

Hope this helps

SCJ
 
I'm glad you started this thread D4U as I have a similar problem. The thing is, I was going faster than the posted speed limit of 40 mph through some roadworks on the M6 yesterday - albeit at 0500hrs, road clear, no workmen around, etc. On the way back, I noticed that they had an average speed checker in operation through the roadworks. How does this work? Am I gonna get an NIP in the post?
 
There is the simple solution to all these questions. Dont speed!!!.

Endex!
 
An update

An update

Just thought I'd let you know.

That GATSO camera that flashed me, had no comeback yet so maybe that's it!

However, the camera is (was) located in a little village called Mudford near Yeovil. When I RTU'd the other Monday it had been set on fire and was a burnt mess. Then going home on the following Fri it had gone altogether and still hasn't been replaced.

A victory for the vigilantes?
 
Dhoby4u said:
Just thought I'd let you know.

That GATSO camera that flashed me, had no comeback yet so maybe that's it!

However, the camera is (was) located in a little village called Mudford near Yeovil. When I RTU'd the other Monday it had been set on fire and was a burnt mess. Then going home on the following Fri it had gone altogether and still hasn't been replaced.

A victory for the vigilantes?
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Frankly I don't think it'll be a victory for anyone if someone comes throttling through there, knowing the camera has been disabled, and ends up flattening a kid on a bike or a Granny crossing the road.
 
I agree with you.

The street it's on has a need for a camera, being downhill.

Vigilantes tend not to worry about such things, just revenge on the technology that caught them!
 
well since its been a good month now since you were flashed then i think its safe to say that you are not going to get done.
 
I was told by somebody that deals with speeding tickets from cameras that if you have not been contacted by 14 days from when you think you were flashed /caught then you are safe.
 
wolfy said:
I was told by somebody that deals with speeding tickets from cameras that if you have not been contacted by 14 days from when you think you were flashed /caught then you are safe.
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Yep, tend to agree. I breathe a little easier. BUT, I am not counting my chickens!
 
wolfy said:
I was told by somebody that deals with speeding tickets from cameras that if you have not been contacted by 14 days from when you think you were flashed /caught then you are safe.
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Your question answered!:

a) No such notice is required if a full or provisional fixed penalty notice has been given or fixed under the Provisions of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988
b) A notice sent by post must be dispatched so that it would reach the driver within the 14 days within the ordinary course of the post. If this is the case then it will have been deemed to have been served even if it is delivered outside the 14 day period.
c) If there is an accident involving the vehicle in question, of which the driver is aware, then the police do not need to provide a Notice of Intended Prosecution.
d) Failure to comply is no bar where the police could not with reasonable diligence have ascertained the name and address of the accused in time for service of the summons or notice within the 14 day period, or the accused contributed to such failure. [These are our highlights - might apply for example if you drive a hire car, company car or you were not the registered keeper]
e) Service of a notice at the last known address of the accused will suffice for good service.
 
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