Glastonbury

[Shugster]

Noel Gallagher might be a 1st class tw4t....

But I have to agree with him on this one...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7345780.stm

HIP HOP and RAP are the biggest load of toss in the music industry.::

 

[tats]

Noel Gallagher might be a 1st class tw4t....

But I have to agree with him on this one...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7345780.stm

HIP HOP and RAP are the biggest load of toss in the music industry.::

I wouldn't say that but I do agree that its not the thing for Glastonbury. Although I'm not sure that it has much part in any of the major festivals that are held every year, I mean I very much doubt that the crowd at Download would accept it (they threw enough of a fit over MCR last year) and its not exactly Gatecrasher material...

 

[lisab]

HIP HOP and RAP are the biggest load of toss in the music industry.::

I would agree with that! but everyone has their own tastes, agree with Noel too, Glastonbury should stick to what it does best, live bands with actual instruments!!

 

[3Chordwonder]

It's not quite accurate though - I witnessed the bottling of 50 Cent at Reading a few years ago (in fact Jay Z had pulled out of the previous year due to the impending plastic rain..)

It's not the fact that they are Hip Hop that makes them so despised by real music fans - I've seen Jurrassic 5, Beastie Boys, Ice-T, Dizzee Rascal and Lethal Bizzle at Reading on several occasions and they go down really well.

It's the whole gangsta thing that offends people so much.

its not race or the genre - it's those bitches, guns and bling idiots that we hate.

 

[firestorm]

Don't like Jay Z? Don't watch him, it's that simple. There will be tons of decent alternatives.

 

[TrenchardsLoveSock]

N G is right. Unfortunately, he said it in a way (or at least the media reported it in a way) that means he will get shouted down as small minded and a bigot.

Jay Z is very good at what he does and I quite like some of his stuff. Doesn't change the fact that he is wrong to headline the main stage on Saturday night.

If he was a couple of slots lower down the billing, I reckon people would have been happy to try something new.

This cr@p has got me foanming at the mouth though:

Kanya King, who established the Mobo Awards, said Gallagher was wrong to criticise the festival's choice of headliner.

"Given that Glastonbury is trying to reach a younger audience and diversify then I think it's important that they embrace hip-hop," she said.
"It seems only fitting that you should have a global superstar act like Jay-Z on the show.
"Glastonbury doesn't have that many hip-hop acts on the main stage, so maybe music lovers will get to see him and their opinions will change."
Fair point, now when are a rock act going to get nominated for a MOBO then? Rock has it's roots in blues so it of a 'black origin'.

Ms Collins said she believed the Oasis songwriter had "probably never seen Jay-Z live or heard any of his tunes".
"Hip-hop in a live setting can be fantastic and has just as much right to be there as any other run-of-the-mill indie band," she added.
And Slayer could put on a great show at the Notting Hill Carnival but I bet you'd go mental in they were booked, wouldn't you?
Jay-Z will headline Glastonbury's Pyramid Stage on the Saturday night
"Gone are the days when a guy would turn up with a microphone and grab himself while wandering around mumbling."
True. He's much more likely to pitch up wearing a small fortune in designer gear and jewellery and complain about the injustice of the class system.

(S)He would do well to remember that tolerance, acceptance and respect are a two-way street.DT_Xtremez_25:

 

[Scaley brat]

(S)He would do well to remember that tolerance, acceptance and respect are a two-way street.DT_Xtremez_25:

It sorely pains me to do this, but ........

Hear hear mate, I always thought that the MOBO awards were started to give awards to people who couldn't win a smash hits award anyway.

Me agreeing with TLS DT_Xtremez_09: Shock, horror, probe ! DT_Xtremez_31:

IMHO Hip hop is garbage anyway, it just seems to be hate laden racist sh1te, propagating the same stereotypical behaviour they SAY they are against. DT_Xtremez_25:

 

[AgentTiro]

Completly agree 3CW!

Some forms of rap and hiphop would go down well at festivals like glasto etc. But "gangsta rap" is definately not one of them.

 

[propersplitbrainme]

Don't like Jay Z? Don't watch him, it's that simple. There will be tons of decent alternatives.

Thats the bottom line IMHO. If Michael Eavis wants to attract the under 30s as he suggested last year he's going to have to move forward with the times because, as the song says, they are a changing.
That said, tickets sales are reportedly down this year so what do we conclude from that?
That folks are sick of living in mud for the festival weekend?
That the 30 or 40 somethings have taken the hint and decided not to bother?
That the kids Mr Eavis wants to attract can't actually afford the ticket prices and its been those wretched 30/40 somethings who've been keeping the festival alive these last few years.

 

[Shugster]

It's not quite accurate though - I witnessed the bottling of 50 Cent at Reading a few years ago (in fact Jay Z had pulled out of the previous year due to the impending plastic rain..)

It's not the fact that they are Hip Hop that makes them so despised by real music fans - I've seen Jurrassic 5, Beastie Boys, Ice-T, Dizzee Rascal and Lethal Bizzle at Reading on several occasions and they go down really well.

It's the whole gangsta thing that offends people so much.

its not race or the genre - it's those bitches, guns and bling idiots that we hate.

I agree. I shouldn't have singled out RAP and HIP HOP.

It is the "Gangsta" thing that grips my sh1t, and, "Brothers", using the word, "Mo Fo", in every sentence.

All the music videos feature big houses, cars, money and "Bitches", it makes me want to blow chunks!
DT_Xtremez_34:

 

[nashbag]

Gotta agree...gangster rap is offensive...not what I'd like to see at glasto.