Just how bad is it?

A story I heard recently suggested that some squadrons had as much as 50% of their manpower with less than 2 years on type as all the experience had walked. Paperwork undersigning, regular shortcutting procedures due to time and manpower issues etc, etc. So with threads on the E-Goat boards about pay, the NEM and long standing goaters hitting the PVR button just how bad is it where you are?

 

[metimmee]

I'm interested in this also, but from the standpoint of the numbers of folks acting up (LHAR/SPAR) due to lack of manpower. That used to be done by exception, but I have been told that this is a routine occurance now.

 

[unruly1986]

Personally, things are okay. Although in a s***hole at the moment, I'm posted to a decent area when I return.

Trade & unit-wise people seem to be PVRing left right and centre. Everyone who is left is on LinkedIn to see what is out there. Golden hellos for new recruits, etc.

Almost halfway to the 22 and can see myself staying for the pension as I do actually enjoy being in the RAF, but I have concerns about how the accommodation charges and pay structures are going to change over the next few years. Maybe that will change my mind.

 

[Ghandi's Flip-Flop]

I'd say things are tight at the minute experience wise. There are a lack of people with more than two years experience on type, as Timmy says there are a lot of people acting up out of necessity. (5 or 6 on AV desk alone). It seems that there is a distinct line in the sand now. Those that have done over 12 are certainly not considering doing beyond 22. And the younger ones seem to be leaving in droves, a large number are just waiting for the 3 years FTS to elapse before they go. The turnover of personnel is genuinely concerning at the minute IMO.


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[Witty_Banter]

Seen a lot moving on recently too, seems like any loyalty to the job as been obliterated by all the recent changes. Which is completely understandable, to be honest. Some feel cheated because they job they're doing isn't what they signed up for, some can't see the chance of any promotion or career progression...

Doesn't help that recent changes have highlighted the intent to use and abuse people for 12 years or less then 'no longer retain them' to save on the pension!

 

[E E E E E E E E AR]

We've raised similar concerns about this happening in TG4, only to be told by the Trade Sponsor (not called Sponsor any more, but I can't remember the new term) that we must be imagining it, as we're on trend for gains/losses.

Apparantly we're also on our recruiting target for the Trade as well, which is surprising.

As has been said, the cumulative effect of changes to pension, housing, pay and the very real prospect of RoS being amended in the near future seems to be forcing people's hands. Close friends at SNCO level are jumping ship before their pension point as the cons are quickly beginning to outweigh the pros.

Gapped posts all over the place, with the resulting upshift in workload and drop in morale.

 

[4everAD]

We've raised similar concerns about this happening in TG4, only to be told by the Trade Sponsor (not called Sponsor any more, but I can't remember the new term) that we must be imagining it, as we're on trend for gains/losses.

Apparantly we're also on our recruiting target for the Trade as well, which is surprising.

As has been said, the cumulative effect of changes to pension, housing, pay and the very real prospect of RoS being amended in the near future seems to be forcing people's hands. Close friends at SNCO level are jumping ship before their pension point as the cons are quickly beginning to outweigh the pros.

Gapped posts all over the place, with the resulting upshift in workload and drop in morale.

My bold, if you look at the projected manpower figures on the manning site you'll see that tg4 is nowhere near its required manning level and this gets worse over the next 12 months to a shortfall of 13%. The figures are truely shocking for tg1 with a projected shortfall of 500 personnel next year can't remember exact figure this year but I think it's around 50 (that's some PVR rate this year! On trend my arse!). The figures don't lie the RAF is truely fudged. The only thing that will save the airships is if the sdsr announces cuts to RAF manning! There will be little pain if they do announce it as the personne they will be required to lose have already pvr'd!

 

[E E E E E E E E AR]

My bold, if you look at the projected manpower figures on the manning site you'll see that tg4 is nowhere near its required manning level and this gets worse over the next 12 months to a shortfall of 13%. The figures are truely shocking for tg1 with a projected shortfall of 500 personnel next year can't remember exact figure this year but I think it's around 50 (that's some PVR rate this year! On trend my arse!).

I was looking at that and thinking the same thing.

Maybe someone from the R&S side could helps us with this. Are the recruiting targets fluid or set for the financial year?
From this I mean, as an example, if you say you want 100 people for a trade in the FY and you get 101, you've smashed your target. Whether the FMDL predict 1 or 100 people PVRing doesn't change your target or does that target shift throughout the year?