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Med Cats and limitations query

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Hi All,

I've just been asked a question and was wondering if there is any advice or gen that the professionals could give.

A friend whos med cat is A4G3Z5 believes he is limited to UK postings only but is unsure if this includes UK Sovereign bases, such as Cyprus, or are these out of the bracket.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
 
Z5 is UK only, so your friend is stuck in Blighty.

Here's the full list:
Factor ‘A’.
A1 - fit for full flying duties of his branch/trade or restricted employability only because of anthropometric limitations.
A2 - fit for full flying duties of his branch/trade, but awarded to aircrew who would be A1 but for refractive error or a hearing standard reduced to H2.
A3 - fit for limited flying duties (limitations to be stated).
A4 - fit to fly as a passenger in a normal passenger carrying aircraft or as a patient on an aeromedical evacuation flight.
A5 - unfit to be taken into the air.

Factor ‘G’.
G1 - fit for full ground duties of his branch/trade, including all general service duties and meets the minimum PULHHEEMS profile for his branch trade as detailed in AP1269A (RAF Manual – Assessment of Medical Fitness).
G2 - fit for full ground duties of his branch/trade, including all general service duties, but requires a medical marker, or does not meet the minimum PULHHEEMS profile for G1 in his branch/trade as detailed in AP1269A (RAF Manual – Assessment of Medical Fitness) or has a limitation to a non-essential duty.
G3 - fit for full ground duties of his branch/trade but fit for limited essential general service duties only.
G4 - fit for limited ground duties of his branch/trade (limitation to be stated).
G5 - unfit for all ground duties.

Factor ‘Z’.
Z1 - fit to serve anywhere in the world with no climatic restriction.
Z2 - fit to serve anywhere in the world except in environments of low temperature.
Z3 - fit to serve anywhere in the world except in environments of high temperature and/or humidity.
Z4 - fit to serve in temperate climates only.
Z5 - fit to serve in the UK only.

Fubar
 
Is it possible to have a med cat of A4G3Z1? What would this mean in regards to deployments/postings?

Many Thanks
 
The G3 marker states he is fit for all trade duties and this also depends on what trade they are, as to deployment. As they could not deploy if unfit CCS or fitness test. The limitations are usually specified, it also depends on the reason for the down grading, it may be due to on going treatment which is unavailable on ops etc. So whilst there is no reason they cannot do their job it may mean they are unfit ops or posting.

Thats my interpretation but some of the medics on here may give a more accurate amswer as at present I am being a nails desert war fighter
 
Thanks for all your help on this Guys n Gals, Dets wasn't this issue on this one (for once) the lad actually wants to go and while his previous SMO said yes, his current one says no.

He's going for review soon so will be a bit better informed as to his options now.

Again, Cheers.
 
Been led to believe by the medical proffesion that A4G3Z5 could be possibly posted to Cyprus, but only if signed off by a SMO.
Other overseas tours are a no, incl Gib.
PM me if you want to...........
 
MrMasher said:
Been led to believe by the medical proffesion that A4G3Z5 could be possibly posted to Cyprus, but only if signed off by a SMO.
Other overseas tours are a no, incl Gib.
PM me if you want to...........
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That's a negative...Z5 UK only however, can be detached to z1 areas for upto 30 days at SMO's descretion.
 
hiya dave

with regards to a4g3z1 as a medical cat..

this is a possible combo i know this as it is currently the one i have.

it basically means you can do your full trade job with the exception of operational tours such as Iraq, Afghanistan and the falklands. You can be sent anywhere else in the world though so not all bad..

oh and the kick in the teeth with it is... you are eligable for promotion (but has to be approved as far as i know by a med board... not 100% though) and you can't sign on with this MES either minimum is a4g2z1.

hope that helps
 
mememe said:
That's a negative...Z5 UK only however, can be detached to z1 areas for upto 30 days at SMO's descretion.
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In that case it would appear that the medical proffession at our respective places differ in opinion.
I was told SMO could sign off a posting to Cyprus if the condition allowed it but other overseas posts were a definite no.
Z5 is generally accepted as UK only.

And this below written by hacked off in the farce was what I have also been told.
oh and the kick in the teeth with it is... you are eligable for promotion (but has to be approved as far as i know by a med board... not 100% though) and you can't sign on with this MES either minimum is a4g2z1.
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I was told that promotion is possible if you are able to fill a post which is allowed by your med cat, no mention of med board. Signing on however is also a no.......
 
MrMasher said:
In that case it would appear that the medical proffession at our respective places differ in opinion.
I was told SMO could sign off a posting to Cyprus if the condition allowed it but other overseas posts were a definite no.
Z5 is generally accepted as UK only.

And this below written by hacked off in the farce was what I have also been told.


I was told that promotion is possible if you are able to fill a post which is allowed by your med cat, no mention of med board. Signing on however is also a no.......
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I had to be med boarded at PMA before promotion was offered. Was given promotion as I still had 6 years to serve (currently A4G4Z5 after a knee ligament rebuild)

Light at the end of the tunnel though, have another med board at Henlow next month, looking to get G2Z1, may have to lie about the pain though!
 
NotAnIDOYet said:
I had to be med boarded at PMA before promotion was offered. Was given promotion as I still had 6 years to serve (currently A4G4Z5 after a knee ligament rebuild)

Light at the end of the tunnel though, have another med board at Henlow next month, looking to get G2Z1, may have to lie about the pain though!
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Thats odd, the drafter I spoke to didnt mention med board for promotion.

Best of luck with the knee mate. Hope you get back to normal soon.
 
MrMasher said:
Thats odd, the drafter I spoke to didnt mention med board for promotion.

Best of luck with the knee mate. Hope you get back to normal soon.
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I only found out because a couple of people below me on the board had dates for FT courses. I then found out my name had been on the original signal for the course but then PMA (at the time) re-issued the signal without me on pending the med board decision.

It is not a true med board in the Henlow style, you do not get any consultation just the Spec Med people at ACOS Manning get together to see if you can still offer the RAF something. It may get you marked down by your mates as a twisted sock det-dodger (has a couple of times in my place) but the RAF is still paying my mortgage and I still work shift in the UK.
 
hello e goaters!!!

i have a couple of questions regarding med cats and signing on!

i am currently a4 g3 z1 after a med board and was told i cannot sign on! (believeit or not i want to stay in for some more!!)
i have recently got my tapes and have approximately 19 months left until my 9 (actually 11 i was young and a fool!!!:PDT_Xtremez_07:) but i am now a cpl and my career has been given a new lease of life!!!

basicaly i want to sign on for further service but currently cant due to my downgrading!

so how can i get round this?
im fit and i can pass my fitness test (just about before my ankle starts giving me jip) and i have never had my job affected by my injuries (done dets all over the desert and some nicer places!)
do i need to go back to henlow or can i get regraded permanently locally? i have to admit 18 months ago i was considering pulling the handle but now i love my job i am getting fitter by the day (although my ankle will always hurt) and feel i have a good chance of going a long way in the raf but i need to sign on!!!

so can anyone give me some good gen please?


thanks!!!!
dan
 
med cat

med cat

i know this is slightly off topic but my husband has his med board coming up soon and has been told that he is L5? is there such a thing? what does it mean?

Thanks x
 
shakey2269 said:
i know this is slightly off topic but my husband has his med board coming up soon and has been told that he is L5? is there such a thing? what does it mean?

Thanks x
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They have changed the med cat slightly, I think the L stands for land and is probably comparable to the old G.

I'm sure a more qualified individual will be along soon to correct or confirm.

By the way welcome to the goat, next time you may want to start a new thread as more people will take a peek.

Cheers
 
L5 definition is:

a. No shopping unless he really wants to
b. The remote control must never be more than 1 metre away from his person.

:PDT_Xtremez_30::PDT_Xtremez_35:

Seriously I think it is 'unfit in the land environment or similar ...whatever that means but he will need to check the JSP...things have changed from the old MES (medical employment standard) to JMES (joint....) so things are very different now.
 
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