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jack brew

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Genuine question; What are you meant to do if you're taken ill when the med centre is closed?

Fend for yourself? That can't be right. I know there is emergency cover (sometimes!) but you can still be caught out, especially if you can't drive to A&E or a pharmacist!
 
There should be a duty medic to call out for emergencies...IE stuff that cant wait till monday.

If its a bad stomach..the runs...or a headache then you need to consider if its an emergency, and if its not then fend for yourself until sick parade (or monday morning)

Hope this helps
 
Take a look at THIS thread to see what i think of Medics and med centres.......total waste of time in this day and age when we have to rely so much on NHS24/direct !!

Crack on...............:PDT_Xtremez_09:
 
There should be a duty medic to call out for emergencies...IE stuff that cant wait till monday.

If its a bad stomach..the runs...or a headache then you need to consider if its an emergency, and if its not then fend for yourself until sick parade (or monday morning)

Hope this helps

But when does a bad stomach become an emergency ? I had a said "bad stomach" last year.......missus tried camp med centre and guardroom no answer from pager etc....she phoned NHS direct they said go to A & E....was kept in for 3 days, then sent home with an appointment to take out my gall bladder..........Med centres are a waste of time !!

Crack on.............:PDT_Xtremez_09:
 
Genuine question; What are you meant to do if you're taken ill when the med centre is closed?

Fend for yourself? That can't be right. I know there is emergency cover (sometimes!) but you can still be caught out, especially if you can't drive to A&E or a pharmacist!


Just bypass the RAF Med system and go civvy straight away. At the end of the day, the RAF Medics will probably just have you referred to a Civvy Hosp anyway if you are really ill.
 
But when does a bad stomach become an emergency ? I had a said "bad stomach" last year.......missus tried camp med centre and guardroom no answer from pager etc....she phoned NHS direct they said go to A & E....was kept in for 3 days, then sent home with an appointment to take out my gall bladder..........Med centres are a waste of time !!

Crack on.............:PDT_Xtremez_09:

Wow!

Of course im not a doctor, but im guessing that it wasnt just an upset stomach you were feeling in that case...

In an ideal world i suppose there should be someone in med centre 24/7... even if it was a sleeping duty or something.
 
Wow!

Of course im not a doctor, but im guessing that it wasnt just an upset stomach you were feeling in that case...

But thats how it starts....like a stomach ache but gradually gets worse and worse till you can't stand straight........if it had been a simple stomach ache i would have been embarresed having to go to A & E though.......there should always be someone in the med centre as far as i'm concerned.

Crack on..............:PDT_Xtremez_09:
 
I was at Lakenheath today and had a bit of a nose around.
They have a Hospital inside the wire.
Wonder what it's like to go away and not have to worry about the family at all?
I'll ask next time I'm there.
 
Wake Up And Smell It

Wake Up And Smell It

These are the facts:
Med Centres are only there to cover Service flying over weekends not patients. The local NHS Trust are paid handsomley for that privillage.
I am not surprised to read the whinging on this subject as you have been rapped in cottonwool and spoon fed for so many years regarding Medical facilities on base. The cotton wool days are gone DEAL WITH IT. You now get the same treatment at the same time as the civvy guy down the road over a weekend!
Personnel within the medical world have a good laugh (at your expence) just wishing they were a fly on the wall when you become a civvy and demand the same treatment and cover you currently get when you register with a civvy practice. I am more than sure they would take great delight in telling you to f off. As for the thread about not being able to drive...What do you think the civvy does? call out MT? No! he will get there by whatever means, I am sure you have heard of taxi's. A wife recently tried to call out the local NHS Dr for a home visit- reason- she couldn't drive- answer by NHS- not our problem! good on them! If it is a genuine emergency call an ambulance however, if you try to con them they will bill you.
Expectations of patients, especially the families are unrealistically high. It boils down to resources and the cover over weekends is financially driven. So before you slag off the Medical Centre staff remember the service you would receive from the NHS and if you don't like it PVR!!!:PDT_Xtremez_28:
 
These are the facts:
Med Centres are only there to cover Service flying over weekends not patients. The local NHS Trust are paid handsomley for that privillage.
I am not surprised to read the whinging on this subject as you have been rapped in cottonwool and spoon fed for so many years regarding Medical facilities on base. The cotton wool days are gone DEAL WITH IT. You now get the same treatment at the same time as the civvy guy down the road over a weekend!
Personnel within the medical world have a good laugh (at your expence) just wishing they were a fly on the wall when you become a civvy and demand the same treatment and cover you currently get when you register with a civvy practice. I am more than sure they would take great delight in telling you to f off. As for the thread about not being able to drive...What do you think the civvy does? call out MT? No! he will get there by whatever means, I am sure you have heard of taxi's. A wife recently tried to call out the local NHS Dr for a home visit- reason- she couldn't drive- answer by NHS- not our problem! good on them! If it is a genuine emergency call an ambulance however, if you try to con them they will bill you.
Expectations of patients, especially the families are unrealistically high. It boils down to resources and the cover over weekends is financially driven. So before you slag off the Medical Centre staff remember the service you would receive from the NHS and if you don't like it PVR!!!:PDT_Xtremez_28:


MEMEME,

Interesting first post. I think I'm just gonna sit back and watch this one out.


:PDT_Xtremez_42:

TW
 
These are the facts:
Med Centres are only there to cover Service flying over weekends not patients. The local NHS Trust are paid handsomley for that privillage.
I am not surprised to read the whinging on this subject as you have been rapped in cottonwool and spoon fed for so many years regarding Medical facilities on base. The cotton wool days are gone DEAL WITH IT. You now get the same treatment at the same time as the civvy guy down the road over a weekend!
Personnel within the medical world have a good laugh (at your expence) just wishing they were a fly on the wall when you become a civvy and demand the same treatment and cover you currently get when you register with a civvy practice. I am more than sure they would take great delight in telling you to f off. As for the thread about not being able to drive...What do you think the civvy does? call out MT? No! he will get there by whatever means, I am sure you have heard of taxi's. A wife recently tried to call out the local NHS Dr for a home visit- reason- she couldn't drive- answer by NHS- not our problem! good on them! If it is a genuine emergency call an ambulance however, if you try to con them they will bill you.
Expectations of patients, especially the families are unrealistically high. It boils down to resources and the cover over weekends is financially driven. So before you slag off the Medical Centre staff remember the service you would receive from the NHS and if you don't like it PVR!!!:PDT_Xtremez_28:

What a load of feckin @rse! Wrapped in cotton wool? Is this the same security blanket that the civilian population uses everytime one of the so called emergency services lets the public down by striking and leaving the Forces to pick up the pieces? We are not civvies and deserve to be treat with some respect (the Spams have it about right) by people that hide behind the freedom and democracy that we uphold and defend. Your spouting drivel deserves to be in the bin. Broaden your mind and take the blinkers off.::/:
 
I've been in this position on occasions. I'm obviously allowed to see the SMO if needed, but I've also registered with a civvy practice as well, sort of covers both sides of the fence. If Mrs. Ping needs to make an appointment at the civvy practice though, she usually has to wait in the region of 2 weeks. Not very good if it's serious. At that point it's either A & E or wait it out.
 
At our Med Centre, it is very hard for someone sick to get an appointment due to the number of fit and well Sqn personnel having to repeatedly visit to get their OOA preps re-signed by a nurse to say they are fit for deployment.

To the comment about "If you dont like it - PVR" How about offering those who live away from base the opportunity to permanently de-register and not have any dealings with the SMC?

....And if the sole purpose of Med Centres is to support flying, how come non-flying units have them?
 
These are the facts:
Med Centres are only there to cover Service flying over weekends not patients. The local NHS Trust are paid handsomley for that privillage.
I am not surprised to read the whinging on this subject as you have been rapped in cottonwool and spoon fed for so many years regarding Medical facilities on base. The cotton wool days are gone DEAL WITH IT. You now get the same treatment at the same time as the civvy guy down the road over a weekend!
Personnel within the medical world have a good laugh (at your expence) just wishing they were a fly on the wall when you become a civvy and demand the same treatment and cover you currently get when you register with a civvy practice. I am more than sure they would take great delight in telling you to f off. As for the thread about not being able to drive...What do you think the civvy does? call out MT? No! he will get there by whatever means, I am sure you have heard of taxi's. A wife recently tried to call out the local NHS Dr for a home visit- reason- she couldn't drive- answer by NHS- not our problem! good on them! If it is a genuine emergency call an ambulance however, if you try to con them they will bill you.
Expectations of patients, especially the families are unrealistically high. It boils down to resources and the cover over weekends is financially driven. So before you slag off the Medical Centre staff remember the service you would receive from the NHS and if you don't like it PVR!!!:PDT_Xtremez_28:

There used to be a time when the RAF recruitment camapaign used "the free medical service" as one of the bonus points to join. As with most other service benefits this has also been eroded, it may still be free but it's certainly not as good as it used to be. Rather than PVR if you don't like it I would consider joining BUPA or similar at a forces discounted rate.
 
There used to be a time when the RAF recruitment camapaign used "the free medical service" as one of the bonus points to join. As with most other service benefits this has also been eroded, it may still be free but it's certainly not as good as it used to be. Rather than PVR if you don't like it I would consider joining BUPA or similar at a forces discounted rate.

They still use it as a benefit to encourage sign ups.
 
"If you dont like it PVR"


I for one am sick of this comment being banded around as a "one size fits all" comment for ****e service or to cover up for stupid rules or policies.
 
These are the facts:
Med Centres are only there to cover Service flying over weekends not patients. The local NHS Trust are paid handsomley for that privillage.
I am not surprised to read the whinging on this subject as you have been rapped in cottonwool and spoon fed for so many years regarding Medical facilities on base. The cotton wool days are gone DEAL WITH IT. You now get the same treatment at the same time as the civvy guy down the road over a weekend!
Personnel within the medical world have a good laugh (at your expence) just wishing they were a fly on the wall when you become a civvy and demand the same treatment and cover you currently get when you register with a civvy practice. I am more than sure they would take great delight in telling you to f off. As for the thread about not being able to drive...What do you think the civvy does? call out MT? No! he will get there by whatever means, I am sure you have heard of taxi's. A wife recently tried to call out the local NHS Dr for a home visit- reason- she couldn't drive- answer by NHS- not our problem! good on them! If it is a genuine emergency call an ambulance however, if you try to con them they will bill you.
Expectations of patients, especially the families are unrealistically high. It boils down to resources and the cover over weekends is financially driven. So before you slag off the Medical Centre staff remember the service you would receive from the NHS and if you don't like it PVR!!!:PDT_Xtremez_28:

Well from my point of view you represent everything that is wrong with the Service today.

You are the reason I HAVE registered my family with a local GP NOT the Med Center, I have had very good treatment in the local NHS, after the SMO informed me 'ah come in sit down Cpl A_D you may have cancer'. Feck me what a decent bedside manner.

After seeing the many and varied clusters made in the so called holy grail of RAF Medical Care I relish the thought of becoming a civvy joining my companies Private Medical care plan and being able to sit back and not worry about whatever the jokers in the Med Center are going to do, that is if you can ever see one!!

Hey princess, dry your eyes and get a real job!
 
"If you dont like it PVR"


I for one am sick of this comment being banded around as a "one size fits all" comment for ****e service or to cover up for stupid rules or policies.
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It's a strap-line that gets a regular airing on e-goat. It's usually imbeciles who have run out of steam that like to use it.

It sometimes comes across as 'and hand your ID/1250 in at the main gate'. Both fu(kin puerile statements.
 
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