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Can you use your phone there?

Can you use your phone there?

I thought that you weren't allowed to use your own phone over there, Persec issues.
 
From what I remember the army were charging people found with personal mobiles.
 
i do remember a ban being issued in afganistan but i wasnt sure about basrah and the deid i stand corrected if wrong :PDT_Xtremez_41:
 
i do remember a ban being issued in afganistan but i wasnt sure about basrah and the deid i stand corrected if wrong :PDT_Xtremez_41:

The Deid was OK for personal mobiles. I was under the impression that Basrah & especially Afghan they were a big no no due to a lot of intercepts.
 
yep mobiles in theatre= very bad idea, and very expensive if you are caught
 
They were advised against for Basrah and they are banned in Afghanistan. The plan was to compare intel leakage from both theatres to see if mobiles were a contributing factor.

Glad I had mine in Basrah because they put a restriction on female movement after 6 or 7pm which meant I couldnt get to the phones on some evenings and a quick text was enough to put the better half's mind at ease.
 
Integrity of the Air interface.

Integrity of the Air interface.

Hi all,

I know that I have mentioned this very issue on another thread.

Only recently I was involved in a requested action by the Bundeswehr/Other Agencies to assist in tracking the location of AFGHANI nationals via there handsets.
These guys were basically trying to intercept mobile calls via setting up "logical" dummy base stations in known areas of German military persons who had recently come back from Afghanistan to intercept calls retrieve the IMSIs and then from there, to gather the personal details of people to use for whatever reason they could.

There are a lot of security measures in place prior to a call being established, but certain areas are weaker than others, such as the air interface, as the data is traversing over an open area, as such.
When you initiate a call from your mobile, it initally requests an "RRC Connection request transparently over the RNC to the Core network, and within this RRC message container is your dedicated IMSI ident (this is the weak point and will only last upto 3secs, but its a window nonetheless) The Core Network will check its Visitor location register (Server basically) and in that register should be at least Two TMSIs allocated to your IMIS (TMSI=Temporary Mobile Subscriber Identity) and the data on the TMSI is meaningless to anyone who maybe listening/retrieving data etc etc. Once the TMSI is allocated, the ciphering on the Air interface is enabled.

Just be careful. Who is working for the operator/vendor in theatre/who is provding managed services for the above, thus has access to your details.

Be aware.
 
i am 'enjoying' the pleasures of basra as we speak, and use of personal phones is not allowed.

they are having a crackdown on it now and i am led to believe a 4 figure fine can be expected if caught.

better just topping up your paradigm card or use the skype or whatever they have at the iclos cabin
 
Im off to Afghan soon and have no intention of using a mobile, but I have 8GB of music on it which I use all the time - if I leave the simcard at home does anyone know if they are ok with it? plus I use it for a camera, alarm clock etc
 
Im off to Afghan soon and have no intention of using a mobile, but I have 8GB of music on it which I use all the time - if I leave the simcard at home does anyone know if they are ok with it? plus I use it for a camera, alarm clock etc

Just got back from sandy place and can confirm Mobile is a very bad idea. However, top tip, loads of old Paridam cards being passed around as uplock system pee poor. Just make sure if you are only going to use a spare one for internet it will be switched off when no phone calls have been made after a while.
 
Just got back from sandy place and can confirm Mobile is a very bad idea. However, top tip, loads of old Paridam cards being passed around as uplock system pee poor. Just make sure if you are only going to use a spare one for internet it will be switched off when no phone calls have been made after a while.

Hmmmm not quite an answer to his question though was it ?

Crack on.................:PDT_Xtremez_09:
 
Hmmmm not quite an answer to his question though was it ?

Crack on.................:PDT_Xtremez_09:
Off Topic
Hmmmmm neither was your response Tashy. Let's try and help the guy out if we can, constructive suggestions/ideas are most welcome.
 
Off Topic
Hmmmmm neither was your response Tashy. Let's try and help the guy out if we can, constructive suggestions/ideas are most welcome.

Guys and Girls who came back off my flight all turned phones back on at Brize. Guess Cops not as Rabid with these things providing sim card is kept apart.
 
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