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Return of the DE

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Surprised to see that the new entry scheme for TG1 Mech and Av will be called Direct Entry Technician.........maybe they thought all old DEs will be long gone but there's still a few of us kicking around!
 
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Return of the DE

What an absolute ****ing nonsense!

How much did they spend getting rid of Mech/ Tech training system and bringing in the AMM/ Tech system...?

And now it’s all gone to ratshìt (as predicted), we're on our way back to exactly the same systems...
 
Quote thing not working. "we're on our way back to exactly the same systems"

It would seem so in fact why not call the mechanics with day to day hands on of aircraft on the flight line, flight line mechanics that could work. :PDT_Xtremez_14:

Previously, certainly in the last 4 years, there has been much work carried out to see if heavy engineering training can be delivered in one shot. It is not however as simple as smashing the two courses together over a coffee and biscuits one afternoon and going from there. What to leave out becomes as important as what to leave in, what level of assumed knowledge are they to work from, how much extra burden if any could the respective type schools carry, with the gap between the previous phases of training allowing an individual to gain some experience how is that to be included in a one shot course. The original DE's from 19 frozen to death were supposed to have some form of engineering background prior to enlisting would that be the case with the newer version? Yes it will be quicker and cheaper and if your a bean counter, with no engineering background, then that's all the conformation you need to make the transition.
 
we are still producing an inexperienced spotty 17year old LAC that has less knowledge than his DE counterpart due to the training pipeline cutting. It's yet another sticky plaster to fill the growing gap and the insult is that they are still coming out as LAC's to save money.
 
There is nothing wrong with the DE. As I recall the only ones who trashed it were the SAC/LAC mechs who thought they were superior because they did 5 years before they got a fitters course. I, along with many, many, many others were proud of our end of training bath taps...
 
Gonterseed said:
There is nothing wrong with the DE. As I recall the only ones who trashed it were the SAC/LAC mechs who thought they were superior because they did 5 years before they got a fitters course. I, along with many, many, many others were proud of our end of training bath taps...
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I would have thought someone who had who had done a five years on the job would be expected to be superior to a guy straight out of training, just a fact of life. I worked with many DE's who had come from engineering backgrounds who were great, conversely I also had some who had just turned 17 and happened to have 4/5 O levels, some of them were not so good putting it kindly.
 
dctyke said:
I would have thought someone who had who had done a five years on the job would be expected to be superior to a guy straight out of training, just a fact of life. I worked with many DE's who had come from engineering backgrounds who were great, conversely I also had some who had just turned 17 and happened to have 4/5 O levels, some of them were not so good putting it kindly.
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Yep - was 16 with the requisite number of O Levels but being colour blind stopped me being an Appo. Not sure I'd be in the "not so good" bracket but I guess you'd have to ask those I've worked with for their spin on that.
 
dctyke said:
I would have thought someone who had who had done a five years on the job would be expected to be superior to a guy straight out of training, just a fact of life. I worked with many DE's who had come from engineering backgrounds who were great, conversely I also had some who had just turned 17 and happened to have 4/5 O levels, some of them were not so good putting it kindly.
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There is no doubt we are both generalising... unfortunately an 18 yo with a few o-levels won't always cut the mustard. The same goes for 5 years of experience.
 
Gonterseed said:
There is no doubt we are both generalising... unfortunately an 18 yo with a few o-levels won't always cut the mustard. The same goes for 5 years of experience.
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However, if you didn't (cut the mustard) you were a lot less likely to get a fitters course...... lots never progressed to be jelly tots.
 
Bring back the Flight Line Mechanic (FLM) and give them their own career structure up to WO.
 
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