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Do you think this was the result of a "night in" discussion with a certain Senior WO at XMAS during a "Message"??? ;)
 
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Interesting one. Do the drill Sgts need to go around with measuring tape, with the new recruit standard length of ponytail on display.
Going to create fun on exercises, loud drone of hairdryers, while the mobile boutique units handle botox nails and lip glossers attend these little darlings needs. What happens if Debbie breaks a false nail, exercise stop for emergency emotional support unit. Hey not forgetting the guys too. Serge the brazillian quaffer will need time to attend Sgt Bullet Head last few strands. Well at least we can laugh, as I salute my poster of the standard RAF haircut, with one tear from the over use hair lacquer to hide my bald patch. Oh dear I've broke a nail now typing this diatribe Nurse nurse nurse. :ROFLMAO:
 
Oh not to be a SWO during these stressful times.
May have to bring back the WRAF Admin to balance the books. Back in the day I've seen a F/S discip back down against a Sgt WRAF Admin as he got his facts wrong on HER girls dress code. I think it was the one and only Roddy Smith.
 
In these days of "we are all equal" it surely won't be long before an SAC Samuel asks, in the interest of equality obviously, if he can grow his hair to the same length as SAC Samantha. There's always some one out there who wants to press to test
 
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fourteen2two said:
If the blokes want man buns or pony tails then go to civvy street. They knew the rules when they joined Simple!
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In the world of the continuously moving goalposts, todays rules may be removed by tomorrow's thinking. How often did "the rules" change in the time you were in, and how often have they changed since then?

How someone looks and dresses is often disproportionately and stupidly linked to their ability.

Those that have the courage of their convictions to dress wildly differently to their peers are often those that can think most strongly for themselves. Judging a book by the cover means that a lot of the brightest people have been excluded from the military in the past. Plenty of people have either been booted out or prevented from joining up due to things that should rightly be private and personal to them. Visible tattoos is one example where "the rules" have changed to accept that perhaps tattoos are worn by far more people than before.

I've personally seen a brilliant but slightly overweight technician booted out because they couldn't run up and down the gym enough times in the allotted time. Unsurprisingly that technicians depth of experience was then desperately missed a few weeks after he'd been booted out as we urgently needed the capability that he had specialised in. It was a niche capability that had only a few qualified people.

We should not let a bunch of 1950's ideals limit those that can be employed in the military. Adapt or die.
 
I'll bet there are plenty of women currently serving who don't really give a flying **** about the new regs and will continue to rock up at work with a hair bun.

"Simply because when they step out of their morning shower, it's too much hassle to blow dry and prep their hair for a day at work.

Towel dried hair, brushed, combed and tied into a bun saves time and effort and means on a Thursday night, they can let it all down, blow dry and look gorgeous."

Paraphrased from a serving RAF Technician. (female).
 
StickyFingers said:
I never once in all my time noticed that the ladies never had ponytails until today.

That's how little it matters.
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Let's put it into perspective. It never bothered anyone before, nobody is particularly bothered now but the rules have been relaxed so the question is...WHY?

Equality! DIVERSITY etc etc.

Now take for example, a girl who happens to be black and wears her long hair in cornrows. That girl's hair and scalp has the potential to be severely damaged if it is forced into a bun every day. To prevent damage and injury to the scalp, she is allowed to wear her hair long. However, in the name of Equality, this discriminates against the girls who want to wear their hair long but have to wear a bun.

Decision. Make it the same for everyone but allow choice. Everyone can wear long hair as long as there are some boundaries. Wear a bun if that's the choice of an individual.

It's the same for men wearing beards. It's not that long ago where having razor bumps and shaving rash could earn a bloke a medical downgrade and all it entailed, loss of promotion, pension rights etc. Growing a beard was only really permissible when on leave. There are also those because of cultural beliefs or because of skin types, need to, or must grow a beard.

Decision: We recognise that different skin types have different characteristics and may lead to skin problems. We also cannot discriminate against cultural reasons for growing a beard. Therefore, everyone is allowed so long as there are boundaries.

In a roundabout sort of way, the choice of bun vs ponytail argument makes perfect sense.

I think.
 
To be honest, so what, is this having an impact on the ability to wage war, NO, move on then
 
Talk Wrench said:
Let's put it into perspective. It never bothered anyone before, nobody is particularly bothered now but the rules have been relaxed so the question is...WHY?

Equality! DIVERSITY etc etc.

Now take for example, a girl who happens to be black and wears her long hair in cornrows. That girl's hair and scalp has the potential to be severely damaged if it is forced into a bun every day. To prevent damage and injury to the scalp, she is allowed to wear her hair long. However, in the name of Equality, this discriminates against the girls who want to wear their hair long but have to wear a bun.

Decision. Make it the same for everyone but allow choice. Everyone can wear long hair as long as there are some boundaries. Wear a bun if that's the choice of an individual.

It's the same for men wearing beards. It's not that long ago where having razor bumps and shaving rash could earn a bloke a medical downgrade and all it entailed, loss of promotion, pension rights etc. Growing a beard was only really permissible when on leave. There are also those because of cultural beliefs or because of skin types, need to, or must grow a beard.

Decision: We recognise that different skin types have different characteristics and may lead to skin problems. We also cannot discriminate against cultural reasons for growing a beard. Therefore, everyone is allowed so long as there are boundaries.

In a roundabout sort of way, the choice of bun vs ponytail argument makes perfect sense.

I think.
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Time has moved on and the RAF is moving with it.

The peeps screaming safety are just clutching at straws, pretty sure the folk on the line will put their hair in a bun (when they take their blues off), same way I don't wear my wedding ring at work incase I get my finger torn off.
 
Oldstacker said:
Both sexes? That implies there are only 2:unsure: -
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In the little world I live in there are only two, you are born either a bloke or a Doris. However people have the freedom to think they are something else and/or identify as something else their thoughts are theirs and they are free to hold those thoughts. Tomorrow I'm going to identify as a North sea haddock called Maureen and there's nothing you can do to stop me. Just got watch out for the trawlers
 
Tin basher said:
In these days of "we are all equal" it surely won't be long before an SAC Samuel asks, in the interest of equality obviously, if he can grow his hair to the same length as SAC Samantha. There's always some one out there who wants to press to test
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In the same vein, how soon will it be before a bloke demands that he be allowed to wear a skirt and court shoes whilst in uniform? All in the name of equality and diversity of course.
 
There have already been cases of boys wearing skirts (and i don't mean kilts...) to school in the name of diversity.....

Now, i wonder if i can get a nice fresh bit of haddock in for my tea?? :D :D
 
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