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Just a hypothetical question what the service action be for a SNCO (married) having an affair with an SAC (single)?

Does the 24 hour posting thing still happen with a formal warning to boot?

And before anyone asks it's not me!
 
Does it affect the effectiveness of the unit?

Yes - action taken.

No - nobody's business.
 
As an aside a hyperthetical high five to the snec for getting nuts deep in someone a whole lot younger and supple!
 
Where does the OP say that they are opposite sex...........? Now the mind boggles.
 
Old SAC, (at the time), Gaz Walker, (God rest his shag anything that moved soul), did our WRAF MT SNEC at Laarbruch.
He was warned not to do her again out in Turkey, but obviously within a few days of getting there he nailed her again.

She was sent back to Germany and moved off the Sqn..... (Gaz's street cred increased considerably. :PDT_Xtremez_30:)
 
woody said:
Just a hypothetical question what the service action be for a SNCO (married) having an affair with an SAC (single)?

Does the 24 hour posting thing still happen with a formal warning to boot?

And before anyone asks it's not me!
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Is there a chain of command issue? If so then a 24 hour posting and FW would be appropriate. If not and they are in different sections then very little can happen. If the latter there is no harm in the snco chain of command having a subtle word with him though.
 
Sorry, but why should the RAF "Admin" become involved in peoples' personal lives. It's got fcuk all to do with the RAF. Let people get on with it and sort it out amongst themselves.




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Cheers for the replies.

Say it was in the same section and the individuals involved were not exactly discrete in their actions? And one of them had a spouse at the same unit.
 
If its a small section and the SNCO would have supervisory responsibilities for the SAC then maybe an internal move for one of them would be appropriate.

As I said early on in the thread, and TBJ repeated, if it doesnt affect the operational effectiveness of the unit then its feck all to do with anyone else.
 
Within the same section would be very difficult, with it being common knowledge (RE you said they weren't being very discreet) how could the SNCO hope to demonstrate impartiality, it would eventually come to tears. I agree with previous posters about service test etc however is this directly affecting you? If not I would suggest leave it alone as you'll only be seen as stirring, IF it has become a problem then the people directly affected would be the best people to raise it through the CoC.
 
If they work in the same section, has said SNCO abused their position? (or just the SAC :PDT_Xtremez_42:). Without all the facts it's very difficult to make a formed opinion.

Mind you, I have to agree with one of the previous posts in this thread, sometimes I think WTF does it have to do with the RAF!!! :PDT_Xtremez_25:
 
SNCO/ other rank familiarity.

SNCO/ other rank familiarity.

The SNCO could be hauled over the coals for "behaving with undue familiarity" with lower ranks.
In the 70s Sgts' Messes dealt differently with the situation when they were married and serving on the same station. Some Messes would allow the SAC to attend informal, but not formal functions - others were the reverse. Some Messes allowed the SAC to attend all functions, both formal and informal and others did not allow the SAC to visit the Mess. The ruling seemed to be at the whim of the CMC.
 
Ronsuddes said:
The SNCO could be hauled over the coals for "behaving with undue familiarity" with lower ranks.
In the 70s Sgts' Messes dealt differently with the situation when they were married and serving on the same station. Some Messes would allow the SAC to attend informal, but not formal functions - others were the reverse. Some Messes allowed the SAC to attend all functions, both formal and informal and others did not allow the SAC to visit the Mess. The ruling seemed to be at the whim of the CMC.
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Nope, no such thing nowadays (and hasn't been for yonks).
 
Ronsuddes said:
The SNCO could be hauled over the coals for "behaving with undue familiarity" with lower ranks.
In the 70s Sgts' Messes dealt differently with the situation when they were married and serving on the same station. Some Messes would allow the SAC to attend informal, but not formal functions - others were the reverse. Some Messes allowed the SAC to attend all functions, both formal and informal and others did not allow the SAC to visit the Mess. The ruling seemed to be at the whim of the CMC.
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The 70's called, they want their attitudes back :)

Ranks are allowed to freely mix, shag and marry these days, and no issue is made of it unless they are in the same CofC and the 'Service Test is failed. Clicky for Armed Forces Code of Conduct.

One of my Cpls is married to a Flt Lt, my old JEngO is married to a Sgt. Different CofC, no issues.

Married people having affairs with people in their own CofCs is a different matter however and it is likely the SNCO is failing the Service Test and could be in the clag.
 
It is absolutely right for the Service to take action when a senior takes advantage of a subordinate, it's called discipline and leadership. To bleat the right to private life line is extremely poor!
 
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