Some [service] gen please!

[vim_fuego]

Whats the process for when you are going to work for a company but initially your are giving then your GRT/terminal before going onto their books? Would our HR require a written (headed note paper etc.) offer or can it come electronically i.e. email? In other words what does a firm need to supply the RAF for me to sod off and get on with it?

I would ask at work but obviously no-one there and this is happening now!

Hopefully I've explained myself enough to make sense...

 

[Stingray]

Vim, have you chatted with the Desk over this?
If that person is in agreement and you can be relieved from your duties etc etc...then I see no problem and have seen it before.
Albeit a different trade and a different time.
Plus. You cannot earn two wages, however, a certain matey of mine worked for gratis for his new company in lieu of a 'bonus' when he was well and truly out of a blue suit.
Good luck.

 

[vim_fuego]

Vim, have you chatted with the Desk over this?
If that person is in agreement and you can be relieved from your duties etc etc...then I see no problem and have seen it before.
Albeit a different trade and a different time.
Plus. You cannot earn two wages, however, a certain matey of mine worked for gratis for his new company in lieu of a 'bonus' when he was well and truly out of a blue suit.
Good luck.

By the time I'd got the verbal offer the desk had gone home for xmas...I'm wanted ASAP so am nailing what I need to do for 3rd Jan now...and thanks!

 

[Stingray]

By the time I'd got the verbal offer the desk had gone home for xmas...I'm wanted ASAP so am nailing what I need to do for 3rd Jan now...and thanks!

Call him back in. Are you going to do Fat Club or something???

 

[busby1971]

Slightly diff gen there, you can have two wages, however, you cannot work and be in duty at the same time, I'm pretty sure that your new employer could organise a period of induction training before you start your paid employment.


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[CC]

You can work on your Resettlement leave but you are not allowed to earn money from it. However, you can work on your annual/terminal leave and be paid for it. Problem is, you are still an employee of the RAF and paid by them and you would therefore need authorisation to work on leave; usually given by your P1 section.

Honestley though, I don't know how often people do this. Once they walk through the gates that tends to be it.

 

[dantura]

I was told (authorised?) by my ressetlement clerk that I could officially start work only whilst in my terminal leave, which I did. I didn't inform anyone else as I had it in writing from her stating the point that I could start.

October was nice getting a double wage, but then so is every other month now geting more money and a pension on top.

I think you do need further auth if starting earlier, but as has been said, tell your company that you will work gratis, if it means securing your job. This can be put down as work placement training IIRC?

Good luck, civvie life is good.

edited to add: Make sure your tax is all sorted. Use your pension for your allowance and everything else as basic and higher rate. You need to tell HM rev and your new HR dpt as they will just give you your tax allowance on your wage plus you get it automatically on your pension unless you tell them too.

 

[Bignick]

Not sure about paid work during your terminal phase, I'm reasonably sure you can't take paid work during resettlement leave.

My understanding is that if your employer is OK with it, you work for 'nothing' during this period. However, at the end of your first month working for them as a full civvi, your wage contains a 'golden hello' equivalent to the amount you would have earned previously.

 

[shettie]

The company I joined in March 2001 took me on as my resettlement, unpaid for 3 months albeit paid by Aunti Betty, until June 2001 when I officially became civvy scum - and was presented with a "golden handshake" by my new employers, equivalent to 3 months wages! Result (until the tax man saw it! ) I would recommend for the first couple of years you fill out a tax return - I got 3- 400 quid back for about 3 years until they sorted themselves out!

 

[PingDit]

Vim - Start work now. Ask your new employer to pay you for any work you do when you've left the RAF - a bit like back-pay. No problems then perhaps, and hopefully they'll understand?

 

[Realist78]

Vim, you can be out in days with a firm job offer, resettlement bird told me one guy recently went within a week start to finish. Obviously it is with agreement of de management etc but what have they to lose?(Off Topicnot fecking loose!). Good Luck.DT_Xtremez_19:

 

[vim_fuego]

I know I can't be paid during GRT but what I need to know is what is required by the RAF from my new employers to release me onto GRT and into their service?

 

[John Lloyd]

Vim,
Out here civ side. the written offer of employment is the point at which you have a legal foundation to tender your resignation from your current employer.

I would have thought that written offer of employment on Company headed paperwork and a pdf attachment of the same would be sufficient.

Good luck

Get out.

JL

 

[Rigga]

To clarify the rules on having two wages:

The RAF/MOD have a rule that says you can't.

The Tax man says you can but you should declare it.

I reality - You can work for whoever you like when leaving the RAF - if you don't WANT to take a wage straight away, you can accept a "Golden Handshake" when leaving the RAF and joining the company. Again it should be declared to the Taxman.

It all depends how difficult you want to be to your next employer.

The only person who needs to know what your doing is the taxman - and someone once told me that even he doesnt allways need to know!

Best of luck with your speedy request.

 

[CC]

To clarify the rules on having two wages:

The RAF/MOD have a rule that says you can't.

Rigga, that's not quite 100% correct. You can earn two wages and plenty of people do, you can work and earn whilst on normal annual or terminal leave, you just need permission from the RAF, as there are certain jobs you are not allowed to undertake; Door bouncers, etc.

What you are not allowed to do is earn money from work whilst on GRT. You can work, just not earn but like a lot of people have said on here; a lot of employers allow you to work and then give you 'some sort of extra benefit' at a later date.

Vim, I would say a letter from your new employer is all you need.

DT_Xtremez_14:

 

[KnackeredStacker]

In my case (left back in march this year) I was originally due to start GRT/accrued AL/terminal leave on march 20th. My new employer wanted me to start at the beginning of the month.

Little boss and big boss were both happy for me to go earlier than planned, and after enquiry with PSF it was determined that a letter from new employers giving a starting PAID date from the first day my annual leave would have started would suffice. They stated in said letter that the first 3 weeks of attendance (whilst on GRT) was on an unpaid work placement, so that was all the arse covering required.

That was all that was required to get me out slightly earlier than I should have, and without breaking any rules that may or may not be enforceable DT_Xtremez_30: