Sporting Injustices

[propersplitbrainme]

Anyone who tuned to SSN this morning can't help but notice that the Irish are a little miffed at Thierry Henry due to the slight, erm, manual assistance he gave the ball in order for France to score the decisive goal in the WC playoff game.
So, is it about time football turned to video technology to help fix injustices like this, or do we have to accept that from time to time these things happen?
There is a saying that injustices even themselves out, and maybe over an extended period they do, although we do tend to better recall injustices that go against our side rather than those that favour us DT_Xtremez_42:
But when its a knockout game that doesn't apply, one duff decision in a tight match and someone goes home feeling gutted and cheated and in those cases I reckon there is a case to answer for video technology to be used. The TV cameras could see within seconds, and whilst France were still celebrating, that Henry had handled the ball (twice in fact) and a video ref could quite easily have contacted the on-field ref and appraised him of ths situation. In those situations its a no-brainer, although I can see that it would be more difficult if an incident occured that didn't result in a natural break in play.

 

[hugo_a_go_go]

It would take but a few seconds for something as important as last nights game to check this, egg chasers have been using this technology for years with minimal disruption.


I bet that idiot Blatter has a nice warm feeling this morning after his fixing of the play-offs went nealy (apart from Ukraine) to plan

 

[Tin basher]

Yes it was handball, yes the ref made a huge error, yes Ireland should not have gone out in that fashion, but until someone (Alex Ferguson probably) invents a time machine the result will stand. We suffered from the maradona "hand of god" incident. An event that caused English despair yet certain Jocks I knew at the time just couldn't stop laughing. At one cup final of the 1950's there was, and still is, debate wether the telling cross was delivered (possibly by George Much) from behind the dead ball line. 1966 did the ball cross the line or just bounce down off the cross bar, was the Russian linesman wrong? It's football these things happen. If video technology is to be employed to sort contenciuos (sp) issues how far down the football pyramid should it be used. Internationals only, premier league and championship or leagues 1 and 2, conference clubs but only in the FA cup who knows. It turns into a nightmare trying to decide how far down to use it.

 

[Funcle]

What the hell would we have to talk about if they adopted video technology. Leave well alone

 

[Sospan]

It's all part of sport in my opinion.

It didn't clear up all dubious decisions in rugby, I remember a Johny Wilkinson try they still got wrong a while back.

 

[tag_lincoln]

Maybe just stop idolising blatant cheats, and maybe sport 'personalities' might actually set good examples.

 

[Hammer and stillson]

Every sport has people involved who cheat. and it's normaly the ones at the top of their game who do it, but then somtimes to be at the top you need to be close to breaking the rules, we only need to look at F1 this season to see how close some of the teams were to breaking ruls.

 

[Sentry57]

Thierry Henry`s goal

Thierry Henry`s goal

When Maradona scored his `hand of god` goal to put England out of the World Cup, 99% of Britain and Ireland had a good old laugh... so no sympathy from me now that it has come back to bite yer bums... So, Ireland... get over it, Scotland... get a decent manager..oh and a few decent players might help. Wales and Ireland.. well you are used to it so `no comment`.

 

[both barrels]

When Maradona scored his `hand of god` goal to put England out of the World Cup, 99% of Britain and Ireland had a good old laugh... so no sympathy from me now that it has come back to bite yer bums... So, Ireland... get over it, Scotland... get a decent manager..oh and a few decent players might help. Wales and Ireland.. well you are used to it so `no comment`.

Fully agree mate. I remember being at Landsdown Rd when it all went off and the scum were singing 'we're gonna bomb your cities'. Fcuk the cnuts.

 

[Greenie]

Its all about the buisness

Its all about the buisness

Portugal and France Through to World Cup after a Bit of Rule bending.

Well done FIFA, after working your own personal piece of magic you managed to ensure that next seasons World Cupa will be as marketable as possible due to your complicity in the fates of both the Republic of Ireland and Bosnia Herzegovina.
The simple fact that one of the major TV sponsors of the premier international event happens to be French TV conglomerate Canal Plus points to the opinion that had France not made the Finals proper then a possible issue would have been encountered.
And then, to add salt into the Republic of Irelands wounds, Thierry Henry decides to handle the ball twice in assisting him to control it in the Irish box and play in William Gallas for the equalising goal that sealed Irish fates.
The simple fact of the matter is that Ireland should never have been forced to face the French without this tie being nominated by the usual and normal means – names from the hat. However FIFA decided that a World Cup without France and Portugal would be a lesser spectacle and they therefore took their dodgy stance.
I for one am disgusted by this type of cheating and it only goes to show that Football as we know it has now changed forever. No longer is it the beautiful game with honour and virtue, it is a marketable asset that requires to be sustainable for all the mini empires that have been allowed to be developed from it. Any element that remained of grass roots Football that has endured the corporatisation of the sport died in the Stade de France last night. I doubt I will be able to watch the finals in South Africa next summer as a result of this.

 

[propersplitbrainme]

Yes it was handball, yes the ref made a huge error, yes Ireland should not have gone out in that fashion, but until someone (Alex Ferguson probably) invents a time machine the result will stand. We suffered from the maradona "hand of god" incident. An event that caused English despair yet certain Jocks I knew at the time just couldn't stop laughing. At one cup final of the 1950's there was, and still is, debate wether the telling cross was delivered (possibly by George Much) from behind the dead ball line. 1966 did the ball cross the line or just bounce down off the cross bar, was the Russian linesman wrong? It's football these things happen.

Yes they do happen, but there are times when they don't HAVE to happen IMHO. TV proved within seconds that Maradonna and Henry had handled the ball immediately prior to a break in play, i.e. a goal. It would have therefore taken only a few more seconds for a video ref to appraise the on-field ref as to what had happened.
But I agree that there are other instances where it is less clear cut and, as Sospan said, video technology still wouldn't prove what happened one way or the other; with all the technology now available the 1966 goal is still debated! Perhaps the idea that is used in American Football and Tennis could be employed whereby the manager would get 3 challenges per match to an officials decision.

If video technology is to be employed to sort contenciuos (sp) issues how far down the football pyramid should it be used. Internationals only, premier league and championship or leagues 1 and 2, conference clubs but only in the FA cup who knows. It turns into a nightmare trying to decide how far down to use it.

Yeah, that would be a decision that would not be easy to take bearing in mind the multi-layers and competitons that exist in football. Any game played at a premier league or championship ground is invariably fully covered by cameras these days, but an FA cup tie at Hidem-on-the-Hill - probably one camera on a crane parked outside the ground.

Perhaps the two extra officials behind the goal as used in the Europa league this season would help. One of them would surely have been in a prime position to spot Henry's nudge...or would he?DT_Xtremez_35:

 

[Tin basher]

Mr Henry's handball, accidental or otherwise, did appear to help towards FIFA's hoped for world cup lineups. But an in game handball is a very different thing from suspected match fixing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8370748.stm

Champions league and Europa league matches apparently, at least that means Accrington Stanley are in the clear.

 

[both barrels]

Whats that got to do with football injustices? surely there is a website for bigotted people like you somewhere else.

Little boys like you...I sh1t 'em. I never mentioned anything bigoted, I know for a fact I didn't call them fenians b*stards. I just recalled a moment from my England abroad days. I just don't like ROI football team. Jumped up cnuts who have ideas above their station. Made 2 WC and 1 Euro and they're a team to be considered! Yeah right. Same as the Scots, had a run of WC and Euro appearances and now they're looking the mediocre outfit that they are.

So sporting injustices, get over 'em. You're not newsworthy in the grand scheme of things. Still I suppose if you don't qualify for Poland/Ukraine, you'll still be bleating.......you bore me.

PM me to quantify your existence.