Uniform laundering at public expense

[feckinG RANT]

Can anyone tell where the rules are with regard to using the laundry provided by the RAF on most camps? I currently use it for my coveralls, trousers and jumper but is it laid down anywhere what the RAF is obliged to launder? I'm asking as I'm looking in to claiming the tax back on the items of uniform I have to launder, part of this is making sure that there is facility provided by the RAF. According to Money Saving Expert you can claim back £12 per year, back dated 6, so £72, not bad for the price of a stamp!

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/family/make-money#uniform

 

[Downsizer]

We had this a couple of years ago but the answer then was no. I can't remember why, and TBH I can't be aresed to search but the answer is kicking around in the forums somewhere.....

 

[MQ-9 Reaper]

Can anyone tell where the rules are with regard to using the laundry provided by the RAF on most camps? I currently use it for my coveralls, trousers and jumper but is it laid down anywhere what the RAF is obliged to launder? I'm asking as I'm looking in to claiming the tax back on the items of uniform I have to launder, part of this is making sure that there is facility provided by the RAF. According to Money Saving Expert you can claim back £12 per year, back dated 6, so £72, not bad for the price of a stamp!

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/family/make-money#uniform

First, Supply can give you that information
Second, Wow.....What a cheapskate
Third, Your contributing to our budget deficit.........
Fourth, good luck with that. DT_Xtremez_14:

 

[gray]

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/9541...F/0/20110616JSP886_Vol6_Pt5_ClothingV2_4U.pdf

JSP 886 apparently - according to good old google
(Annex A)

DT_Xtremez_26:

Gray

 

[muttywhitedog]

I think you'll find that if laundering of your uniform is provided by your employer then there is no entitlement to tax relief. This was a pretty hot topic in 2007, resulting in the Tax Office receiving thousands of claims from HM Forces personnel. Certainly at my former unit, the clothing stores were made to shorten their turn-round time for laundry, and all blocks/messes were fitted with free washing machines.

The only way you'll be able to claim the money if you can get a letter from your employer stating that there is no provision of free laundering for you - thats like getting someone to sign a blank cheque and I wish you luck!

 

[feckinG RANT]

It's in the JSP 886, thanks Gray.

Basically, as I thought, coveralls and other protective clothing, Other Ranks No 1 SD, No 6 SD, No 2 SD trousers, slacks and skirt, jersey, tie, General Purpose Jacket, Combat Soldier 95 jacket and trousers, wet weather jacket and trousers and SD caps are all are authorised to be laundered at public expense.

So I have to wash my own shirts and socks, which I do. Not bothered about that, no hassle at all, but if I can get a lump sum of £72 for the price of a stamp then I'll give it a go. Not a huge amount of cash but let's be honest, if you knew you could get £72 just for sending letter you'd be mad not to do it, you can even get the letter from MSE forums! Now I have the JSP I can quote it in a letter and it should be clear to HMRC what services are provided.

With regards to machines in the blocks etc, I live out. Plus any provided by SIF are not free, I would suggest in that case there is no laundry provided by the RAF.

Done some searching and found the previous posts. Mutty was correct, back to 2007, it was discussed and the conclusion was made after a letter back from HMRC stating that:

"HMRC also confirmed that no tax relief was available for Servicemen for the washing of their uniforms: officers, because they receive recompense for ‘upkeep’ within their tax allowance; and airmen because they have the option of having clothing laundered at unit level."

Well, IAW JSP 886 shirts and socks are not covered, therefore the Service does not provide laundry for all items of clothing. I will be pointing this out to HMRC. Going to give it a go anyway, no hassle in trying.

 

[Talk Wrench]

Can you claim for having haircuts as well?

7 quid a pop once a month in every twelve month period, for something that your employer demands of you, surely must be worth a couple of quid back in the old tax return as an expense?

 

[NotAnIDOYet]

First, Supply can give you that information
Second, Wow.....What a cheapskate
Third, Your contributing to our budget deficit.........
Fourth, good luck with that. DT_Xtremez_14:

Well, IAW JSP 886 shirts and socks are not covered, therefore the Service does not provide laundry for all items of clothing. I will be pointing this out to HMRC. Going to give it a go anyway, no hassle in trying.

Are things really that bad that this is the way ahead in this modern military we inhabit? Do you do all your uniform washing seperately or are you putting in a few "personal" items as well? If you wash everything together then your would only be entitled to claim the tax back on a portion of a wash - the taxman may also say that you are washing other items and may charge you tax on those, a bit like personal mileage on a company car!

The alternative is not to wash your shirts and socks and merely exchange them everytime they are dirty! Or just grow up and accept that washing your clothes when needed is part of what society deems necessary. To put things in perspective times the number of people in the Armed Forces (less naval personnel in sea billets, who I belive have to pay for their laundry service on board, and the approximately 10000 on deployed operations around the world who may have their laundry done under contract) and see how much that would cost the country each year.

I think MQ-9 gets it correct above!!

 

[feckinG RANT]

Are things really that bad that this is the way ahead in this modern military we inhabit? Do you do all your uniform washing seperately or are you putting in a few "personal" items as well? If you wash everything together then your would only be entitled to claim the tax back on a portion of a wash - the taxman may also say that you are washing other items and may charge you tax on those, a bit like personal mileage on a company car!

The alternative is not to wash your shirts and socks and merely exchange them everytime they are dirty! Or just grow up and accept that washing your clothes when needed is part of what society deems necessary. To put things in perspective times the number of people in the Armed Forces (less naval personnel in sea billets, who I belive have to pay for their laundry service on board, and the approximately 10000 on deployed operations around the world who may have their laundry done under contract) and see how much that would cost the country each year.

I think MQ-9 gets it correct above!!

If I can get the £72 I'll take it, and why shouldn't I? Because someone like you tells me to grow up? Get real and back off.

Tell you what Mr high and mighty, you give me the £72 and I'll not put the claim in; put your money where your mouth is!

There was perhaps a time in my life when I accepted things for the good of the Service or country, that time is long gone. Anyway, that's off topic. I asked a question and as is the norm on this site got un-warranted abuse.

 

[monobrow]

I asked a question and as is the norm on this site got un-warranted abuse.

I reckon if you asked this (or almost any question) in a crew room you'd probably get one or two responses you don't like. I'd hardly class that response as "abuse" unless abuse counts for something that isn't blowing smoke up your ass and telling you that what you think is perfect in every single way...

 

[feckinG RANT]

I reckon if you asked this (or almost any question) in a crew room you'd probably get one or two responses you don't like. I'd hardly class that response as "abuse" unless abuse counts for something that isn't blowing smoke up your ass and telling you that what you think is perfect in every single way...

Is this a crew room? I believe there are forums where it is fair game to abuse, this is not one of them. If I did ask this question in my crew room I would find everyone would be up for it if they could get their hands on some cash. Cheers though.

My point is this, why post unless it's of value? The post in question by NotAnIDOYet was simply to have a go. I suspect that NotAnIDOYet does like what I'm trying to do and felt that it was fair game to have a go. His call, but no need.

 

[NotAnIDOYet]

If I can get the £72 I'll take it, and why shouldn't I? Because someone like you tells me to grow up? Get real and back off.

Tell you what Mr high and mighty, you give me the £72 and I'll not put the claim in; put your money where your mouth is!

There was perhaps a time in my life when I accepted things for the good of the Service or country, that time is long gone. Anyway, that's off topic. I asked a question and as is the norm on this site got un-warranted abuse.

Is this a crew room? I believe there are forums where it is fair game to abuse, this is not one of them. If I did ask this question in my crew room I would find everyone would be up for it if they could get their hands on some cash. Cheers though.

My point is this, why post unless it's of value? The post in question by NotAnIDOYet was simply to have a go. I suspect that NotAnIDOYet does like what I'm trying to do and felt that it was fair game to have a go. His call, but no need.

Does £12 a year make so much of a difference to your life? If that is the case you maybe need to take a good long look at your situation!

I did not post merely to have a go, I am just sick of armchair experts quoting the (mostly) drivel spouted by Martin Lewis. If you want this kind of advice use the military forum on moneysavingexpert.com, you might get the sensible answer you so need to validate your position!

 

[monobrow]

Is this a crew room? I believe there are forums where it is fair game to abuse, this is not one of them. If I did ask this question in my crew room I would find everyone would be up for it if they could get their hands on some cash. Cheers though.

My point is this, why post unless it's of value? The post in question by NotAnIDOYet was simply to have a go. I suspect that NotAnIDOYet does like what I'm trying to do and felt that it was fair game to have a go. His call, but no need.

Every one? Are you sure? Anyway, disagreement isn't the same as abuse.

 

[feckinG RANT]

Every one? Are you sure? Anyway, disagreement isn't the same as abuse.

Ok, most people, but I'll wager that if the discussion was in the crew room anyone with an opposing view wouldn't be so confident to stand up and say it. Easy to do it from the safety of a computer though.

And I agree with disagreement, but a nerve has been touched hence the PM just sent to me.

I asked a reasonable question in a reasonable manner. Disliking the question is no reason to take a morale stand and start hassling via PM!

 

[NotAnIDOYet]

Ok, most people, but I'll wager that if the discussion was in the crew room anyone with an opposing view wouldn't be so confident to stand up and say it. Easy to do it from the safety of a computer though.

And I agree with disagreement, but a nerve has been touched hence the PM just sent to me.

I asked a reasonable question in a reasonable manner. Disliking the question is no reason to take a morale stand and start hassling via PM!

I wasn't hassling, just felt that PM was a more appropriate place than in public!

For the record I am more than happy to give my side of the argument in person, name the time and place!

 

[Realist78]

Break out the handbags!:0

 

[blackscarrab]

Tax Money

Tax Money

I dont care how little the amount of money is to claim back it's better in my pocket than in theirs. Can you imagine the amount of tax rebate funding there is sat in the Government coffers ?? Millions. I'm going for it!

 

[Realist78]

I dont care how little the amount of money is to claim back it's better in my pocket than in theirs. Can you imagine the amount of tax rebate funding there is sat in the Government coffers ?? Millions. I'm going for it![/QUOTE]

Then I imagine that you'll be disappointed. I could understand all this if you were on poverty line wages but FFS!