So it's not hard and fast then? Suggest 2, mean 7, then they can get 5 years worth of legitimate claims back as you've binned them.
I'll be keeping mine in a box in the loft for the forseeable then.
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So it's not hard and fast then? Suggest 2, mean 7, then they can get 5 years worth of legitimate claims back as you've binned them.
I'll be keeping mine in a box in the loft for the forseeable then.
Pecker
surely if you are competent enough to recover a jet then surely you are competent to ask what the authority for that journey is? Regardless that your clerk has booked your wagon and hotel you will need to know what the authority is to claim your subsistence, your IE and associated expenses. Even if it was a rush recovery then as a SNCO you must have had the nouse to ask for an authority when you got back. After all, without that you couldn't have submitted a claim in the first place.
I must be in the wrong job!
LMAO, Sqn Clks fellah, they are generally very protective of their charges!
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It seems I must be incompetant with regards to JPA claims then. Having recieved no formal training on it and advice that varies from camp to camp, clerk to clerk, I feel no shame in not having the 1st clue about claims. I don't see the point in audits anyway, my 1st bit of advice from a sqn clerk was not to worry about reciepts, just self cert everything and there's not a thing the auditors can do about it. I don't know how true that is but I've had no problems so far.
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Who did receive formal training into putting claims onto JPA? Clerks certainly didn't! I don't recall formal training being around when we had to submit F1771s either but there was a dedicated section to check claims then. As soon as you press that submit button you are making a statement that you are aware that what you are claiming is correct. If you are not 100% ask! Self certing works up to a point, although the powers at be will become suspicious if you never submit a single receipt and self cert everthing.
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If the JSP says 2 years then 2 years it is.. Although JPA clawed 115 notes back from dets 4 years ago recently, and I was glad It kept stuff for longer than 2 years as I could see the results and I could get it back. On that note what's the limit on a retrospective claim then? If I suddenly remember that I went to Vegas for a week 3 years ago and never claimed, how quickly will a shiney tell me I can't claim due to a rule that puts a time limit on it?
Its 6 years for a retrospective claim, but you would then have to keep your docs for a further 2 years from receipt of the money, so 8 years is the max you would have to keep docs for.
Crikey, this thread is turning into one of those, where people try and start making up their own rules, based on civilian industry standards.
Just for the record, I don't answer to the NAO, I answer to the mighty JSP's. In this case, the JSP is as CLEAR as crystal. Two years and then find your nearest shredder. I can't really see where there is ANY scope for misinterpretation.
The NAO, can go and take a running jump off a short platform. If the NAO have got time on their hands to audit me, instead of a shed load of thieving MP's, then I have even less respect for them and their procedures.
Also, not sure why certain people think that, if something is different in Civilian Street, then we as the military have to abide by it.
I can give you many examples of where we as military, get exemptions to such laws. These range from, working hours, minimum rates of pay, driving age ranges etc etc.
Unless someone can come on here, and give an example of when a Serviceperson has in fact had to produce 6 years or 7 years worth of receipts to the NAO, then it’s all just speculation and even possibly, jealousy that we only have to keep our receipts for 2 years.
Just for the record, I don't answer to the NAO, I answer to the mighty JSP's. In this case, the JSP is as CLEAR as crystal. Two years and then find your nearest shredder. I can't really see where there is ANY scope for misinterpretation.
The NAO, can go and take a running jump off a short platform. If the NAO have got time on their hands to audit me, instead of a shed load of thieving MP's, then I have even less respect for them and their procedures.
Also, not sure why certain people think that, if something is different in Civilian Street, then we as the military have to abide by it.
I can give you many examples of where we as military, get exemptions to such laws. These range from, working hours, minimum rates of pay, driving age ranges etc etc.
Unless someone can come on here, and give an example of when a Serviceperson has in fact had to produce 6 years or 7 years worth of receipts to the NAO, then it’s all just speculation and even possibly, jealousy that we only have to keep our receipts for 2 years.
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I think there is a lot of confusion coming into this thread. A serviceman is to keep his (or her) receipts for 2 years IAW the JSP.
The NAO can request to see for all expense claims an individual as made over a period of x years or months (the last one I know of was for a 6 month period) with the supporting documentation. However if one of these expense claims has been audited by the unit auuditor the paper work should be within PSF/Accounts. This is kept for 7 years (at my unit anyway).
The NAO can request to see for all expense claims an individual as made over a period of x years or months (the last one I know of was for a 6 month period) with the supporting documentation. However if one of these expense claims has been audited by the unit auuditor the paper work should be within PSF/Accounts. This is kept for 7 years (at my unit anyway).