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If you were posted 30 Mar prior to the new leave year starting you would be zeroed.

My understanding of the policy was to stop a receiving unit having to carry the burden of people being posted in with carry over of leave which is fair enough in most cases as most of the time people are sensible enough to reduce their leave in their 90 days notice period. However in the case of my collegue she will not have the opportunity to take her leave.

Can you explain what is meant by the term zeroing in the context of this IBN then as it obvioisly has not only me but a few people scratching our heads.
 
SirSaltyHelmet said:
I am in this situation:I am posted later this year, I have been told that I have to use the 15 days that I have carried forward from last year's entitlement before I leave here. Additionally, they have calculated a pro rata amount that I must take before posting, this ensures that I have taken the right amount of leave so far and it is not a burden to the new unit.
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I was under the impression that carried over leave is the last to be utilised from you ILA balance and is only used once the awarded balance for that year had been used up? If that is the case, using 15 days leave before posting will not stop 15 days being lost on posting

I may be mistaken though, but i recall it being explained that way when the new leave policy was announced
 
how about

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If she is posted October then she will need to use all her carry over leave before then surely? the whole deployment makes no difference and she can have her POL without any issues? I guess any leave she was saving for XMAS would be safe as she will be able to carry 15 over next year too so if she doesn't use her leave that will be saved.

I would say not to get her posting defered otherwise she would lose any leave on posting?
 
When you apply for leave then your individual balances reduce in the following order of priority:

Authorised Absence (AA)
Post Operational Leave (POL)
Seagoers’ Leave (SGL)
Annual Leave Allowance (ALA)
 
If the whole point of zeroing leave is so the receiving unit isn't burdened by the previous units inability to allow personnel to take leave, why is the service person to suffer? By taking any leave you make the unit suffer by not being in work. As you only get 38 days leave out of 365 (excluding weekends S/D etc), then either the leave should roll on until you come to leave the service, or recompense the service person annually for the leave they could not take.

I think the fact a service person has worked hard to earn those 38 days, and this has been over shadowed by the need to have nice neat numbers in some weekly report at Manning.

Either carry it over or pay a days wage for every day lost.
 
Fact 1. On posting, the only leave that cannot be carried on to your new unit is any that has been carried forward from a previous leave year. The maximum leave balance you can start your new unit with is 38 days, but as yet there is no way anyone can adjust ILA on JPA without making a mess of the program.

Fact 2. Mr Masher was told by me in March before his posting to get his leave down to less than 38 by sticking in for Xmas before he was posted. I had exactly the same problem with excess leave so stuck in 2 weeks for October - result being I started my new unit with less than 38 days.

Fact 3. 15 days leave can automatically be carried forward. Sniffer, if your friend has a potential leave problem now, then he/she should take leave in July/August/September or October before pre-deployment trg. If he/she can be spared for 4-5 months from December then they can be spared for a month in any of those months.

Fact 4. POL does not get wiped on 1 Apr 12, nor in any other year. So Sniffer, your friend will have whatever POL they have accrued to use when they come back.
 
I'm in the same boat with my Leave. I Gen App'd to not loose any leave on posting and it has been accepted. I think it's because I got my assignemtn order while I was deployed, I got deployed in April and I will spend the full 90 days in Theatre so have no way of using up any leave. I've managed to carry over 68days leave to my next unit. This includes AA, PODL and ALA.
 
clungemobile said:
does any fecker know what the hell is going on :PDT_Xtremez_42:
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Nope, it appears that everyone is getting different messages! Which, obviously, is never great - clarification is needed, i for one will be paying admin a visit when an assignment order lands in my workflow.

In my opinion you shouldnt lose any leave due to posting, the leave should be paid in extra on a wageslip
 
muttywhitedog said:
Fact 3. 15 days leave can automatically be carried forward. Sniffer, if your friend has a potential leave problem now, then he/she should take leave in July/August/September or October before pre-deployment trg. If he/she can be spared for 4-5 months from December then they can be spared for a month in any of those months.
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Really, that's how it works in other Sections? If I'm on a 4 month OOA and have to complete a month of pre-deployment courses and I'm entitled to nearly 3 weeks off when I get back getting another month away from the Section is nearly impossible. For a start I'll probably have to get a guard shift in before I go. Someone's got to be working to cover the other guys on pre-deployment courses, OOA or POL. It's a tiny Air Force doing the job of a medium Air Force and the guys at the bottom are the ones that suffer.
 
Sorry, but thats just spineless management, who need to learn how to say "no" or "it will have to wait a bit longer" to their lords & masters.

If the section cant cope because you are on leave for a few days, how can they suddenly cope when you aint there for 5-6 months?
 
Mutty, in an ideal world that would be the case however she has 4 weeks of pre-deployment courses to do not just .

Aldo just to throw in another example. Hubby is sandyside at the moment for 2 months. He put in a weeks leave for the first week he is back and has had it rejected on manning grounds.
 
muttywhitedog said:
Fact 2. Mr Masher was told by me in March before his posting to get his leave down to less than 38 by sticking in for Xmas before he was posted. I had exactly the same problem with excess leave so stuck in 2 weeks for October - result being I started my new unit with less than 38 days.
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Easy now, wind it in!!
I ran out of time and brain power and forgot!:PDT_Xtremez_42:

When I approached my new boss she said she'd be happy with me carrying the extra days over, however my new chief clerk didn't agree and I ended up with the usual entitlement plus 5 days relocation and lost my 5 additional days which would have been over and above the usual.

To be honest I didn't fight it as I have had more than enough time off at Cott whilst waiting for nothing to happen. :PDT_Xtremez_30:
 
Leave isn't being zeroed in Apr anymore however it still stands on change of assignment. I would say your friend has a pretty good case and would suggest going down the route of gen app to carry over the leave. I guess to the new unit though since she'll be there when wanting to take the leave.
 
Anyone care to comment on the latest "re-revised" leave arrangements released in the last day or two?


Finally proper clarification. And finally someone realising that the changes were unreasonable, unenforceable and unfair.
 
Enlighten me...

I've been going through the painful process of migration to DII (again!) this week, so not had much communication with the outside world.
 
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