Disturbance Allowance Help Please

[Lil Miss Naughty]

Im posted and moving from my room at the block at my currant camp to private accommodation which is close to my new camp.
A few people have mentioned that since Im moving from the barrack block to private accommodation then I may be entitled to the higher £1000 or so disturbance allowance.
Can anyone confirm if this is true or not?
I went to see PSF/HR Admin but the person I spoke to wasnt helpful at all. All they did was give me the number of a JSP and told me to look it up for myself or get my new camp to sort it out there when I get there. When I explained that I would much rather I knew before I moved (So I could see if I could afford to hire a van etc) they said they couldnt help me and I should ask my new unit.

Anyone know if I can claim it or not???

 

[Downsizer]

Have you read the JSP 752 chapter 7 section 1 yet or are you still waiting for it to be spoonfed to you?

 

[True Blue Jack]

All they did was give me the number of a JSP and told me to look it up for myself

That sounds quite helpful to me.

 

[Lil Miss Naughty]

Have you read the JSP 752 chapter 7 section 1 yet or are you still waiting for it to be spoonfed to you?

Actually I have read it however since Im not a clerk it didnt really make sense to me!!!

Plus with so many people getting charged or made to repay incorrect JPA claims I just wanted to make sure I was claim for the right thing.

 

[True Blue Jack]

Actually I have read it however since Im not a clerk it didnt really make sense to me!!!

What does the JSP say? Tell us which part doesn't make sense to you and we will try to explain it better.

 

[Lil Miss Naughty]

What does the JSP say? Tell us which part doesn't make sense to you and we will try to explain it better.

Well most of it really because it mentions about it you move accommodation but nothing about postings.
I only posted on her to get some advice and it seems like all Im getting is ridicule. If someone knows the answer can they please not just be helpful and tell me it. I have tried to fish it out the JSP however like I said Im no clerk. I remember there was a time when PSF used to be helpful.

 

[Downsizer]

I'm no clerk, but here is what I think...

You will get DA payable at either the privately owned or rented accom rate as per para 07.0108 sub section c or d...

What those rates are I don't know..

But I think you be getting IRO of 900 smacks...

 

[True Blue Jack]

07.0115. Qualifying Moves. It is the move of the Service person, not the immediate family (unless bereaved or in the circumstances at paragraph 07.0116), which provides eligibility for DA. To qualify for DA Service personnel must

Be ordered in writing to move to a new place of duty to undertake a permanent assignment following Phase One training

Do you have an assignment order?

It is not my intent to ridicule you, just to encourage you to think for yourself. If you don't and you fail to claim an allowance to which you may be entitled then you're the one who loses, not PSF.

 

[tommo9999]

Go back to your PSF and tell them that you've read the JSP but you're still unsure and you don't want to claim illegally. They should help. Also ask them about UKPASH.

 

[Lil Miss Naughty]

Do you have an assignment order?

It is not my intent to ridicule you, just to encourage you to think for yourself. If you don't and you fail to claim an allowance to which you may be entitled then you're the one who loses, not PSF.

However if I claim for something Im not entiled to then its me who ends up in the s**t.

I have an assignment order

 

[Downsizer]

Just found it...privately owned £1154, privately rented £1024

 

[Lil Miss Naughty]

Just found it...privately owned £1154, privately rented £1024

Thanks

So I take it since Im moving into Privately rented I get that rate, regardless of the fact that Im moving from the block.

 

[Downsizer]

Thanks

So I take it since Im moving into Privately rented I get that rate, regardless of the fact that Im moving from the block.

The jsp states it is the move to, not move from...

But then that is only my interpretation and I'm an armourer...

 

[muttywhitedog]

Here's my suggestion (as a clk), and what me and my staff do with anyone who is not sure about DA entitlement - lets be realistic here folks as many people are now experiencing their first posting since JPA D Day.

Log into JPA

Self-Service User

Disturbance Allowance

Then answer the following questions:

Is the move less than 50 miles between residences? Yes No

Is this a Mid-Assignment Move? Yes No

Is this a Final Tour of Duty move? Yes No

How many children (in school or nursery) are affected by this move?

Is this move wholly within the UK? Yes No

What type of accommodation are you moving to?
Privately Owned
Privately Rented
Service Families
Service Single

Is this accommodation shared (with other service personnel)? Yes No

If so, by how many?

Date of Move?

Once you've done that it is then up to an approver (HR) to verify your claim and the money gets paid into your bank. Without knowing your specific answers to the questions, then I cannot advise you on what you will get exactly, but the basic rule is that if you are moving into private accom rather than a barrack/mess room then you will get more.

Para 07.0108 is the best part to start. Sub paras a to d will tell you which category you are in.

If you are a singly, moving from the block and renting your own place on your own then para d would apply.

 

[Lil Miss Naughty]

Here's my suggestion (as a clk), and what me and my staff do with anyone who is not sure about DA entitlement - lets be realistic here folks as many people are now experiencing their first posting since JPA D Day.

Log into JPA

Self-Service User

Disturbance Allowance

Then answer the following questions:

Is the move less than 50 miles between residences? Yes No

Is this a Mid-Assignment Move? Yes No

Is this a Final Tour of Duty move? Yes No

How many children (in school or nursery) are affected by this move?

Is this move wholly within the UK? Yes No

What type of accommodation are you moving to?
Privately Owned
Privately Rented
Service Families
Service Single

Is this accommodation shared (with other service personnel)? Yes No

If so, by how many?

Date of Move?

Once you've done that it is then up to an approver (HR) to verify your claim and the money gets paid into your bank. Without knowing your specific answers to the questions, then I cannot advise you on what you will get exactly, but the basic rule is that if you are moving into private accom rather than a barrack/mess room then you will get more.

Para 07.0108 is the best part to start. Sub paras a to d will tell you which category you are in.

If you are a singly, moving from the block and renting your own place on your own then para d would apply.

Thanks for your help. I'll have a look again at the JSP now I know exactly where to look.

 

[TrenchardsLoveSock]

I have issues with the payment of DA to people coming out of the block. Can you honestly tell me that the cost of a singly moving out of the block for the first time is going to incur costs of £1024?

I'm not going to quote the JSP here in full as it might be frowned upon, but when you look at Annex 1 Para 1, a lot of that is, as far as I'm concerned, not applicable, especially for the first move.

Items a and b shouldn't count for a first move. We get paid WAGES to furnish our houses. On subsequent moves, it is fair enough as the furniture you have may not fit the new house, or survive the move (God knows our stuff will be due for the tip after move number 5 next week).

Items d, e and f. You're in a block FFS! No garden, and if you need to remove rubbish in bulk, you should be on jankers!

Item h. New TV aerial. This is the 21st century. It's hard to find a place without an aerial these days.

Item i. Not needed as your curent mail will be redirected by the station mail office.

Item m. Meals out for cleaning? You eat in the mess and only have one room to clean.

When I rule the world, there will be a (heavily) reduced rate for first movesDT_Xtremez_25:

 

[Downsizer]

I have issues with the payment of DA to people coming out of the block. Can you honestly tell me that the cost of a singly moving out of the block for the first time is going to incur costs of £1024?

I'm not going to quote the JSP here in full as it might be frowned upon, but when you look at Annex 1 Para 1, a lot of that is, as far as I'm concerned, not applicable, especially for the first move.

Items a and b shouldn't count for a first move. We get paid WAGES to furnish our houses. On subsequent moves, it is fair enough as the furniture you have may not fit the new house, or survive the move (God knows our stuff will be due for the tip after move number 5 next week).

Items d, e and f. You're in a block FFS! No garden, and if you need to remove rubbish in bulk, you should be on jankers!

Item h. New TV aerial. This is the 21st century. It's hard to find a place without an aerial these days.

Item i. Not needed as your curent mail will be redirected by the station mail office.

Item m. Meals out for cleaning? You eat in the mess and only have one room to clean.

When I rule the world, there will be a (heavily) reduced rate for first movesDT_Xtremez_25:

This is for another thread...If you want to kick off take it to fight club or what grips my sh1t...

 

[TrenchardsLoveSock]

This is for another thread...If you want to kick off take it to fight club or what grips my sh1t...

I'm just bitter 'cos my first move from the block into MQ was entirley at my own expense::

 

[True Blue Jack]

I'm just bitter 'cos my first move from the block into MQ was entirley at my own expense::

As was mine. So is everybody's again, now that the "first setting up of home" clause has sneaked its way back into the JSP. That was the only question MWD didn't ask; another goater was stung by it recently and is faced with the prospect of repaying his £1024 before Christmas.

 

[gemarriott]

I'm just bitter 'cos my first move from the block into MQ was entirley at my own expense::

It is a sign of how some things change for the better. If someone can get an extra few bob out of Gordon then good on them.

Off topic a bit but my first move from Block to quarter entailed emptying my locker into my kitbag and case. Returning bedding to the guardroom bedding store and sweeping my bedspace. I then carried my case and kitbag the half mile to my quarter (no car couldn't afford one) which was fully furnished from teaspoons to beds, linen to lawnmower (hand push variety). It was 6 months before we had a telly. As a SAC mech armourer it was a palace, I lived opposite the Squadron Wobbly and between 2 Sgts on the same squadron and none of us had owtDT_Xtremez_31:

So if you can get a few bob out of the system good luck to you!