Engineer Ground Taxi of Aircraft

[metimmee]

With the exception of Cosford, are there any other platforms which allow authorised ground taxi of aircraft by technicians?

 

[Drill Bit]

Platforms or stations.

Jags at Cranwell.

 

[metimmee]

I am looking for aircraft types and any good reference info.

 

[Tubby]

Not the Hercs mate, legally anyway

 

[Hu Jardon]

I am looking for aircraft types and any good reference info.

You might want to search amongst the JAP etc for the term "Taxi Pilot" pretty sure that was the terminology written on the auth chits I authorised when I was still in.

 

[Cake or Death]

Marham has had several. Chocks not as big as they used to be. DT_Xtremez_42:

 

[Late & Tired]

I jumped the chocks in a Victor during an EGR.
Fuel load too light - power toooooooo high.
I also scuffed OC Eng's carpet during the subsequent 'interview'...

 

[Throatarea]

Civvy companies maintaining MOD civvy type aircraft did have engineers taxi aircraft to compass bases and high pwr running pads until about Oct last year, when the MAA stopped it cos they had a panic on!!! ffs. It saved a lot of time and f""king about. Now these companies just bill the MOD for more time and tug hire--simples.
Interesting to see how virgin- i mean Air tanker will do it.

 

[grumpyoldb]

Civvy companies maintaining MOD civvy type aircraft did have engineers taxi aircraft to compass bases and high pwr running pads until about Oct last year, when the MAA stopped it cos they had a panic on!!! ffs. It saved a lot of time and f""king about. Now these companies just bill the MOD for more time and tug hire--simples.
Interesting to see how virgin- i mean Air tanker will do it.

That's fine untill it goes wrong, then the sh1t hits the fan. DT_Xtremez_42:

 

[Fairynotleckie]

I believe that during an engine run as part of handing an aircraft over to the company, an operator tried to hold the aircraft on the brakes.

The parking brake had less of a pressure than actually using the foot motors on the rudder pedals. So the parking brake was set to off to allow the foot motors to operate.

There was 2 people in the cockpit, one running the engine and the other holding it on the brakes. The guy holding it on the brakes made a NWS input through the rudder pedals which i believe disabled some of the braking pressure.

This then lead to the end result in the picture...


So, maybe not a good place to be sitting if your an engineer...

 

[Sospan]

That's fine untill it goes wrong, then the sh1t hits the fan. DT_Xtremez_42:

Or the fan hits the sh1t in this case!!!

Do many stations have a duty crew in order to carry out these tasks?

 

[I Look Like Kevin Costner]

I believe that during an engine run as part of handing an aircraft over to the company, an operator tried to hold the aircraft on the brakes.

The parking brake had less of a pressure than actually using the foot motors on the rudder pedals. So the parking brake was set to off to allow the foot motors to operate.

There was 2 people in the cockpit, one running the engine and the other holding it on the brakes. The guy holding it on the brakes made a NWS input through the rudder pedals which i believe disabled some of the braking pressure.

This then lead to the end result in the picture...


So, maybe not a good place to be sitting if your an engineer...

It was a bunch of F**k WITS who didn't take account of what they were doing compared to what the aircraft was capable of...

High power runs on a large CAT type require a large fuel load and the aircraft to be CHOCKED! This aircraft wasn't chocked. The EPR settings were beyond the braking capacity of the system as set to park. It was only when the aircraft started to move that the guy used the toe brakes (releasing full brake capacity to the aircraft. Pressing the pedals also releases the parking brake detent)
Airbuses and Boeings steer on the taxi by use of a tiller wheel, not the rudder pedals. The use of the wheel over a certain angle does reduce the braking circuits available thus brake capacity. Why they didn't chop the throttles as well when the kite start to move is a mystery and confirms their status of f**kwits.

 

[Rigga]

I taxied an ATR72 around Jersey airport once and parking next to the right ramp was bit of a a pain, but only ground runs since.

 

[Talk Wrench]

It was a bunch of F**k WITS who didn't take account of what they were doing compared to what the aircraft was capable of...

High power runs on a large CAT type require a large fuel load and the aircraft to be CHOCKED! This aircraft wasn't chocked. The EPR settings were beyond the braking capacity of the system as set to park. It was only when the aircraft started to move that the guy used the toe brakes (releasing full brake capacity to the aircraft. Pressing the pedals also releases the parking brake detent)
Airbuses and Boeings steer on the taxi by use of a tiller wheel, not the rudder pedals. The use of the wheel over a certain angle does reduce the braking circuits available thus brake capacity. Why they didn't chop the throttles as well when the kite start to move is a mystery and confirms their status of f**kwits.

The guy sat in the RHS lost his legs. The others lost their jobs.

As for not retarding the throttles, I thought that another groundcrew member on board lunged forward over the centre pedestal to chop them beck, stumbled and pushed them forward.

There's a report somewhere and there was a great thread on PPrune about it with all sorts of nonsense being spouted.

And believe it or not, I was there on the airfield at Blagnac the night that it occurred. Blue lights everywhere!!!

Taxiing past the wreckage the day after when flying home certainly made a few pax nervous!:0

I've still got the pics of it on an old mobile phone.

TW

 

[Treehugger]

Pah, I reckon I could have that airborne in a couple of hours with a bit of L165 and a few cherries!

 

[MontyPlumbs]

Get the BEngO to sign it off for one flight only!! Off TopicOff Topic