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Firefighters' strike - Nov 5th

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Unfortunately, the current forum rules prevent me from expressing my true feelings towards the clowns organising this cynical event.

What do they want to achieve? Keep 5,500 firemen and sack 5,500 from another public service?

Get real, we all have to take a bite from this particular poo pie.
 
There's an anecdote in there somewhere to do with ****ing on bonfires, but damned if I can find it.

The biggest dangers for them are two-fold. 1. The press will crucify them if a kid gets his mush torched. 2. If nothing at all occurs, everyone will say "so they went on strike - so what?".
 
Stevienics said:
There's an anecdote in there somewhere to do with ****ing on bonfires, but damned if I can find it.

The biggest dangers for them are two-fold. 1. The press will crucify them if a kid gets his mush torched. 2. If nothing at all occurs, everyone will say "so they went on strike - so what?".
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Scenario 2 is pretty unlikely, I would have thought, considering it's Bonfire Night when the strike action is threatened.
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Bit brave of them to chance their arm is it not?

Kinda simple - go on strike - fire them and plenty of ex-military will soon be available to replace you. Also aided to by the fact that a lot will have had some training care of Op Fiasco.

Meerkat says "simples"!!
 
These lads never cease to amaze me. I agree, sack the bloody lot and recruit from ex-mob and people who don't mind working. :PDT_Xtremez_25:
 
I don't know what percentage of the FB voted for the Labour party in order to maintain their cushy number, but all they did was to allow the public credit card to be maxed out totally.

Now it's time for all of us to foot the bill.

Why should they be spared or given special treatment?
 
I await some input from firestorm on this, there's usually more to situations like this than the headlines indicate.
 
Bone idle, the lot of 'em. It's got to be the best paid, part-time job in the country. Nearly all of them are working elsewhere on their "off days". I reckon you can be a schoolteacher and a fireman at the same time !!

No doubt they'll churn out all the usual cr8p about burning alive on the job, but let's face it, the job's a doddle to what it was 40-50 yrs ago. It was all chimney fires and chip pans then, both of which have largely disappeared from daily life for the majority.

9/10 times I see a fire engine, it's at a road crash.

As the old saying goes - you'll never beat a fireman at pool or darts.
 
I don't quite get this antipathy that gets aimed at firefighters in this forum :confused: The fire service is surely something we pay for and must have but hope we don't need; just like the armed forces in fact. I'd much sooner keep 5,500 trained firefighters and lose an equal number of Equality and Diversity Co-ordinators and other jobs which meddle and interfere with everyone else's business.
Their shifts are attractive and they can hold down second jobs? So what, are they the only ones in this situation, Lyneham certainly had plenty of shift working second job holders at one time. And as for never beating a fireman at darts, well what exactly are they supposed to do while waiting for the next call - they can't be training the whole time.
 
Does someone want to chat with me?:S

Aim your questions directly between my eyes and I'll do my best to answer them.

Can we try to keep it civil as well?

...awaits incoming.
 
propersplitbrainme said:
I don't quite get this antipathy that gets aimed at firefighters in this forum :confused: The fire service is surely something we pay for and must have but hope we don't need; just like the armed forces in fact. I'd much sooner keep 5,500 trained firefighters and lose an equal number of Equality and Diversity Co-ordinators and other jobs which meddle and interfere with everyone else's business.
Their shifts are attractive and they can hold down second jobs? So what, are they the only ones in this situation, Lyneham certainly had plenty of shift working second job holders at one time. And as for never beating a fireman at darts, well what exactly are they supposed to do while waiting for the next call - they can't be training the whole time.
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Good well I'll stick you as number 1 volanteer to cover their jobs. Plenty of people who would love their job with their salaries and pensions who would happily not be part of unions as we are not in the armed forces or police force. Let them strike... stand firm with their working hours, if they want to quit let them. Employ new firemen who wont constantly whinging about their working hours and dont give the one's who quite jobseekers. Bet they'll soon wish they were back in their crewrooms working out who is top of the volleyball league then!
 
I have great admiration for the Fire Service. Cantering through the FBU webpage to see what has led to the strike, I noted advice on how to picket and was interested, if not somewhat perturbed, to note contingency stations (staffed by non FBU members) are to be targetted and the workers therein to "be approached and discouraged from working". Members are not to picket their own stations.

Even though we do not have the luxury of a representative forum I am very much aware that, legislatively, the right to strike must be maintained. However, I cannot think of a single dispute in the last 20 years that have been solved by this form of action. I fear this threat is more likely to distance firefighters from public support.
 
Inevertouchedit said:
Bone idle, the lot of 'em. It's got to be the best paid, part-time job in the country. Nearly all of them are working elsewhere on their "off days". I reckon you can be a schoolteacher and a fireman at the same time !!

No doubt they'll churn out all the usual cr8p about burning alive on the job, but let's face it, the job's a doddle to what it was 40-50 yrs ago. It was all chimney fires and chip pans then, both of which have largely disappeared from daily life for the majority.

9/10 times I see a fire engine, it's at a road crash.

As the old saying goes - you'll never beat a fireman at pool or darts.
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Or especialy Volleyball!:PDT_Xtremez_25:
 
firestorm said:
Does someone want to chat with me?:S

Aim your questions directly between my eyes and I'll do my best to answer them.

Can we try to keep it civil as well?

...awaits incoming.
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Do you think the FBU has scored an own-goal by electing to strike on 5 Nov to support their cause?

Getting the public to accept the reasoning behind the strike as inevitable due to the behaviour of management is one thing, persuading them that the 5 Nov is inevitable and reasonable is another because it clearly isn't. I believe the FBU have made a PR mistake in selecting 5 Nov further eroding public sympathy and strengthening the employers hand.
 
Let's be honest, we in the Forces hate people who go on strike.

I honestly think that the emergency services should have a voice, but striking shouldnt be allowed. It's a form of blackmail and can result in the loss of lives.
 
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