Fitness tests in final 6 months?

[Snagsy]

One of the guys in my workplace will be in his last 6 months of his contract come april, when our next fitness tests are due, and he says that there is a rule that because of this, he doesnt have to do it.

Is this true or false?

 

[Realist78]

It used to be mentioned in the fitness strategy AP but seems to have been removed (or I couldn't find it again).

 

[Joe_90]

I think that because of the amount of time admin action takes if you fail it is deemed a waste of time. If he fails he gets three months to improve, if he fails again he gets a further three months then booted out. I think that's the correct sequence, please correct me if I'm wrong. Therefore when they try to boot him out he'd be leaving anyway, a bit of a waste of everyones time really.

 

[Snagsy]

That makes sense about the RAF not having time to physically kick him out if he fails.

Just rather see it in writing though

 

[Climebear]

One of the guys in my workplace will be in his last 6 months of his contract come april, when our next fitness tests are due, and he says that there is a rule that because of this, he doesnt have to do it.

Is this true or false?

Simple answer = False.

Exemption from the requirement to undertake the RAFFT are listed in AP3342, Section 4, Leaflet 42 (available on intranet). The siutation you describe is not listed as an exemption.

 

[Realist78]

Simple answer = False.

Exemption from the requirement to undertake the RAFFT are listed in AP3342, Section 4, Leaflet 42 (available on intranet). The siutation you describe is not listed as an exemption.

Currently correct but as Joe 90 says, the regime for booting you out makes this a farce. You could turn up, walk one shuttle, fail and be put on remedial PT, don't attend and when your 3 month review comes about, you're on resettlement then terminal leave etc. Utter folly and a waste of everyone's time IMO.

 

[Climebear]

Currently correct but as Joe 90 says, the regime for booting you out makes this a farce. You could turn up, walk one shuttle, fail and be put on remedial PT, don't attend and when your 3 month review comes about, you're on resettlement then terminal leave etc. Utter folly and a waste of everyone's time IMO.

Agreed; but, the OP asked if there was an exemption for this individual not wether we thought that the individual should be doing it.

To be deliberatly provocative (because I'm in that type of mood at the moment), the Service ascertains that the RAFFT is a measure of an individual's personal qualities in that it - claims - to ascertain wether an individual is leading a healthy lifestyle by committing regular exercise. So, if the chap (or chapess) just couldn't be asked in the last 6 months this could reflect on that individual's PQs which, in turn, could then be reflected in any discharge write up or employment reference.

 

[Snagsy]

Agreed; but, the OP asked if there was an exemption for this individual not wether we thought that the individual should be doing it.

To be deliberatly provocative (because I'm in that type of mood at the moment), the Service ascertains that the RAFFT is a measure of an individual's personal qualities in that it - claims - to ascertain wether an individual is leading a healthy lifestyle by committing regular exercise. So, if the chap (or chapess) just couldn't be asked in the last 6 months this could reflect on that individual's PQs which, in turn, could then be reflected in any discharge write up or employment reference.

AFAIK you cant write anything negative in an individuals discharge write-up

 

[Climebear]

AFAIK you cant write anything negative in an individuals discharge write-up

Yes you can - 'Failed to meet the requirments of the Service' being common for an individual discharged with a record significantly below the norm.

 

[justintime129]

AFAIK you cant write anything negative in an individuals discharge write-up

Surely what you don't say, says as much as what you do say.

 

[Realist78]

Yes you can - 'Failed to meet the requirments of the Service' being common for an individual discharged with a record significantly below the norm.

An individual who simply couldn't be @rsed for his last 6 months would hardly have a record significantly below the norm.

 

[Climebear]

An individual who simply couldn't be @rsed for his last 6 months would hardly have a record significantly below the norm.

So it's OK to let standards slip in the last 6 months? Just forget anything E&D because you can't be bothered, can't be bothered to turn up for work on time, don't feel like wearing uniform, just call the Stn Cdr mate... What is so different about the personal qualities that the Service expects in an individual's last 6 months than during the rest of their career?

 

[RAF Bird]

That's a pretty nice big thank you isn't it. Thanks for all out hard work over the last 22 years, blah blah blah blah blah.... but what'll now do is fook you over by writing a derogative remark in their discharge write up. Normally Climebear your spot on with everything you type but I think that's (no matter how your feeling) a pretty harsh way to look at it.


Just to add 2 guys recently left from my work place and niether of them were asked to take the RAFFT in their last 6 months.

 

[Climebear]

RAF Bird

Have a look at the first line of the second para at post #7.

You have to excuse a chap for having a game of fishing every now and then.

 

[RAF Bird]

RAF Bird

Have a look at the first line of the second para at post #7.

You have to excuse a chap for having a game of fishing every now and then.

No I got that....

the problem is that there are genuinly people around who think like that and I just think it's very very sad. If your in your last 6 months I think you have bigger things to worry about that RAFFT/CCS etc......

hope that wee bite was big enough for you! DT_Xtremez_42:

Pop over to the allowances thread and I'll bite about flying pay if you like! DT_Xtremez_30:

 

[Malesu]

Well when I spoke to the pti's about it, they didn't seem too bothered about me not doing it in my final 6 months.

I've got my resettlement courses sorted and roll on October DT_Xtremez_30:

 

[Snagsy]

I get the feeling its more about the local manpower management of the individual, and whether or not they are bothered about it.

 

[FOMz]

I didn't do a fitness test in my last 6 months either. I did however just pop into the gym and speak to the head mirror technician.... he wasn't interested stating it was more trouble than it was worth.

Saying that though - it only takes one jobsworth........

 

[superstacker]

With four weeks until I went on resettlement, my line management still made me attend my fitness test.

Run until i felt a bit short of breath, and then stopped. I then had to go to the back office and speak to the PTI, told him I was leaving next month and the matter was dropped by the PED section.

My OC then decided I was to be MAA'd and had to listen to a load of speil about my attitude to fitness.

I then didnt attend any more PT and left a few weeks later.

It just depends how anal your boss wants to be.

 

[norfolkred1]

That's a pretty nice big thank you isn't it. Thanks for all out hard work over the last 22 years, blah blah blah blah blah.... but what'll now do is fook you over by writing a derogative remark in their discharge write up. Normally Climebear your spot on with everything you type but I think that's (no matter how your feeling) a pretty harsh way to look at it.


WTF do a civvy company care about a discharge write up.

Been out 2+ years now, did not do my Fitness Test or CCS in the last 6 months before I left. Got a crracking write up and a cracking Valedictory Certificate from an AFM, then again I did do 28 years loyal Service...