Ha ha....brilliant. But, would be great to have a copy of said 'Order' in pocket to pull out and rub in said rupert's face!
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techie_tubby
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The email I have from SO2 RAF Ceremonial says that the dress policy for the Garden Party on the 19th of May is to be Number Ones with Medals which is to include the Queens Jubilee Medal.
Well I stand corrected and I'll eat my newly acquired choccy medal along with a massive slice of humble pie to make up for it.
However, the OP has indicated wether he is going to the one asociated with the Queen's Diamond Jubilee Parade and Muster on 19 May or one of the other Royal Garden Parties (the former being a Jubilee event, the later are not).
techie_tubby
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I apologise to all in advance if I am mistaken. I thought there was only the one garden party a year.
I see that we were talking at cross purposes. There is more than one Royal Garden Party a year (although slightly fewer this year) - see below.
http://www.royal.gov.uk/RoyalEventsandCeremonies/GardenParties/Gardenparties.aspx
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feckinG RANT
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Saw something at Lossie about this. Partners can go, flights down and back, two nights in a Hotel, 35 places available, of which (and this is the shocking bit!) SHQ, PSF & Accts have been allocated (or taken more like!) 16 places! That's just under half FFS! Ops Wg has 8, XV(R) has just 5 and Eng Wg have 6!
How many work in SHQ? No more than 30 I bet, and they get 16 places, when you have a Sqn as big as XV(R) getting just 5! How do they get away with it!
How many work in SHQ? No more than 30 I bet, and they get 16 places, when you have a Sqn as big as XV(R) getting just 5! How do they get away with it!
Shiney Scot
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Are you sure that the allocations within SHQ are for PSF/Accts? From my time at Lossiemouth 2 of the Stn Execs lived in there as well as CDO & Business Manager (?) who sit at the same table
There is an application form on the Defence Intranet (search 'Queens Diamond Jubilee Parade and Muster') with instruction that the RAF Ceremonial Office are processing applications. I don't know if anything has been circulated around the RAF (Techie Tubby indicated that there has been an email from the Ceremonial Office) as I am not serving in Air Command (I'm in Army Central) and don't get to see such things (so much for looking after the Diaspora).
feckinG RANT
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The email trail I have seen clearly says something akin to this...
SHQ/PSF/Accts - 16 Personnel
A4 Manning - 6 Personnel
XV(R) - 5 Personnel
Ops Wg - 8 Personnel
I was thinking more for next years standard garden parties tbh... I assume its the same/similar?
techie_tubby
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The email I got circulated i nwork was an Army briefing note thing. I email RAF Ceremonial to confirm if it was all kosher or wether the Army where making up their own dress rules again.
Sorry Downsizer I misunderstood.
There's normally a calling notice circulated to Stations - generally towards the end of the calendar year. In 'normal' years there are 3 Royal Garden Parties at Buckingham Palace and one at Holyrood Palace.
I've seen the DIN amending the regs for the QDJM to permit the full size medal to be worn by personnel taking part in Jubilee events prior to Jun. It is 'gen'.
Mind you even when the Army do make up their own dress regs they generally fail to follow them
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The Royal Garden Party, regardless of location, is a great occasion and well done for scoring a ticket. The wife and I went a couple of years ago to Buck House and will be one of those things we will be talking about for years to come. We decided to make a couple of days of it with a day's leave either side of it. The RGP itself is classed as duty so there's no need to put leave in, however travel and subsistence can't be claimed for. We stayed in a hotel about 150 yards or so from Kensington Palace and the day we went it was around 32 degrees so we walked through the gardens and Hyde Park before getting the underpass near the Lanesborough Hotel. There are queues all around the walls of the gardens but as soon as we headed towards a queue, an Aussie Flt Lt who was in the process of showing his invite to the police saw us and shouted over "come in with us mate" so we got in more or less straight away - none of the public seemed to mind this either, which we though was really good.
As soon as we got through the gate, you enter HM's back garden which even in a prolonged dry period of hot sunshine, still looked absolutely magnificent. All of the guests more or less have the run of the place and provided you don't wreck anything, take anythng, etc, no-one minds at all and it's a real privilege to see areas that no-one else ever gets to see. At the top of the garden by the rear of the house there are two tea tents - the one that you use and the one for the royals and their invited guests (diplomats, etc). The amount and quality of food and drink available to you is second to none and you can stuff your face as much as want - all of the usual afternoon tea fare such as sandwiches, cakes, stickies, etc. The tea that is served is a special blend from Fortnum and Mason and is to die for (I love my brew and it really is something special). It's not available anywhere else other than Buck House which is a real shame as it really is lovely stuff. It is reckoned that the royals cost everyone in this country 67p per year and I certainly had my 67p's worth of scran, my wife's and all of our friends and colleagues that we had probably met in our lifetimes!
At 1600 on the nail, the royals congregate at the top of the steps and the anthem is played. Depending on the day, there will be a selection of the family out to have tea. We were really lucky in that most of the big guns were there - Charles and Camilla, Anne, Sophie and Edward as well as the Queen and Philip. Officially, the flunkies in their top hats and tails walk around the grounds talking to people and ascertaining who has an interesting story to share with the Queen - most of the people there are ordinary members of the public who have raised thousands for charity or given years in public service (we got talking to an old man and his wife and he'd been a lollipop man in his village for 60 years) and are recommended to be invited by their Lord Lieutenant - however protocol soon goes out of the window. We were in an unofficial receiving line for Charles and Camilla who spent ages working their way down it as they stopped and spoke to EVERYBODY and are indeed a very pleasant pair of people. You turn around and you see Philip stood behind you, talking to his mates. It really is a surreal experience! They soon head over to their tea tent for their brews and sticky buns. As I said, you have the run of the gardens and is very nice to be able walk around and take in the surroundings. As I said earlier, we had 32 degrees with hot sunshine so there's even ice cream served which was a nice touch.
At 1800, they head back to the top of the stops and the anthem is again played signalling the end of the party. You leave through the house, again seeing things the public don't get to see. As you head to the front, the tourists go ballistic and the wife and I were asked to pose for photos for several yanks and Japanese people!
My advice is definitely wear your No 1s, more than anything to facilitate ease of entry. There's no bullsh1t at the party so no saluting, etc, despite there being lots of officers from the Household Div, etc who believe in that kind of thing. It's a very relaxed occasion. But most of all, enjoy it - it really is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and provided the weather stays nice it's a pleasant, but surreal, way to spend a summer afternoon.
As soon as we got through the gate, you enter HM's back garden which even in a prolonged dry period of hot sunshine, still looked absolutely magnificent. All of the guests more or less have the run of the place and provided you don't wreck anything, take anythng, etc, no-one minds at all and it's a real privilege to see areas that no-one else ever gets to see. At the top of the garden by the rear of the house there are two tea tents - the one that you use and the one for the royals and their invited guests (diplomats, etc). The amount and quality of food and drink available to you is second to none and you can stuff your face as much as want - all of the usual afternoon tea fare such as sandwiches, cakes, stickies, etc. The tea that is served is a special blend from Fortnum and Mason and is to die for (I love my brew and it really is something special). It's not available anywhere else other than Buck House which is a real shame as it really is lovely stuff. It is reckoned that the royals cost everyone in this country 67p per year and I certainly had my 67p's worth of scran, my wife's and all of our friends and colleagues that we had probably met in our lifetimes!
At 1600 on the nail, the royals congregate at the top of the steps and the anthem is played. Depending on the day, there will be a selection of the family out to have tea. We were really lucky in that most of the big guns were there - Charles and Camilla, Anne, Sophie and Edward as well as the Queen and Philip. Officially, the flunkies in their top hats and tails walk around the grounds talking to people and ascertaining who has an interesting story to share with the Queen - most of the people there are ordinary members of the public who have raised thousands for charity or given years in public service (we got talking to an old man and his wife and he'd been a lollipop man in his village for 60 years) and are recommended to be invited by their Lord Lieutenant - however protocol soon goes out of the window. We were in an unofficial receiving line for Charles and Camilla who spent ages working their way down it as they stopped and spoke to EVERYBODY and are indeed a very pleasant pair of people. You turn around and you see Philip stood behind you, talking to his mates. It really is a surreal experience! They soon head over to their tea tent for their brews and sticky buns. As I said, you have the run of the gardens and is very nice to be able walk around and take in the surroundings. As I said earlier, we had 32 degrees with hot sunshine so there's even ice cream served which was a nice touch.
At 1800, they head back to the top of the stops and the anthem is again played signalling the end of the party. You leave through the house, again seeing things the public don't get to see. As you head to the front, the tourists go ballistic and the wife and I were asked to pose for photos for several yanks and Japanese people!
My advice is definitely wear your No 1s, more than anything to facilitate ease of entry. There's no bullsh1t at the party so no saluting, etc, despite there being lots of officers from the Household Div, etc who believe in that kind of thing. It's a very relaxed occasion. But most of all, enjoy it - it really is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and provided the weather stays nice it's a pleasant, but surreal, way to spend a summer afternoon.
No prob. Never seen anything in SROs/Station info about it....quite fancy a bit of it next year.
After a bit of last minute advice. Me & Mrs Wipe have received an invite to a particular event in London. However, because it involves a certain famous church we are a bit struggling as to what she can wear (hat / heels or not?) and how much in advance we should arrive before the time of the service. Info from those of a higher authority has been sketchy to say the least, and the date is fast approaching.
Any advice anyone can give would be most appreciated.
Any advice anyone can give would be most appreciated.