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tommo9999 said:
Do these snooper things really work? Do they pick up static and mobile speed guns/cameras etc?
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They warn you of Gatso, Truvelo, SPECs etc from hundreds of yards away (internal database, updateable whenever you want). They pick up mobile ones if they detect the laser beam (which unfortunately might be too late). Good thing there though is that there aren't many mobile ones around (why pay out a wedge to man a mobile one when you can have a static one that coins it in?):PDT_Xtremez_30:
 
I really notice them when I'm back in UK. They just seem to be everywhere, and not just in accident blackspots as was claimed by the govt.
 
AllWoman said:
If you were driving withn the speed limit you wouldn't need time to react!!!!:PDT_Xtremez_30:
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I do, .....honest! I really do resent paying out for these things though. It may be different for someone who spends a lot of time in their car but I spend just over 1 hour a day in the car as a rule. The longest journey I do is 3 hours back ooopp north, even then I pretty much know where the cameras are (A1 especially!).

::P:
 
If speed kills then there are obviously lots of racing drivers, pilots, motoring journalists and speeding car drivers dying every hour of every day.

I have allways loved this comment, same as the one that guns kill, both should be qualified, the gun one is easy guns kill if someone pulls the trigger with said 'loaded' gun aimed at someones vital organs (and hits them of course).

Speed only kills if there is an accident and then that's not strictly true as it depends on a lot of other factors, it is also true that the drivers who do not travel fast enough cause accidents and deaths, but in neither case just going to fast/to slow 'by itself' kills anyone.
 
mad_moriarty said:
I drove in a friends car who had a snooper, we drove past two CCTV cameras and the snooper was bleeping away, not very configured in my opnion.

But BE WARNED!

For anyone using a Snooper device, The Department of Transport are pushing for legislation to go through on the making of Snooper devices to become illegal.

GPS baised devices remain to be legal and their are no indications that this rule will change.
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Snooper is GPS based, hence the database of known camera locations. Admittedly, it does also pick up on laser beams but usually by that time it's too late.
 
realist78 said:
Is it not the accepted fact that inappropriate speed causes accidents and kills?:PDT_Xtremez_26:
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Nope, it's the sudden stop at the end that does it almost every time. A collision of 30 mph has enough energy to rip your aorta from the heart. It's no coincidence that the faster car driver generally lives and the SLOWER one dies. The faster driver has more kinetic energy and the slower one will be stopped dead in it's tracks or even pushed backwards.
 
Do these snooper things really work? Do they pick up static and mobile speed guns/cameras etc?
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We use lasers now, and by the time you pick it up, we already have the reading. IIRC it takes about 0.2 of a second. I'm trained on the ultralyte 20-20 which also can tell if it is being jammed.

My view is if you can't see a big yellow box at the side of the road, you shouldn't be behind the wheel.

Expect to see a lot more average speed camera systems soon. We've just fitted two in our area.
 
Tigger said:
We use lasers now, and by the time you pick it up, we already have the reading. IIRC it takes about 0.2 of a second. I'm trained on the ultralyte 20-20 which also can tell if it is being jammed.

My view is if you can't see a big yellow box at the side of the road, you shouldn't be behind the wheel.

Expect to see a lot more average speed camera systems soon. We've just fitted two in our area.
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Just so we know Tigger, where exactly is your area?:PDT_Xtremez_30:
 
SlightlyOff Topic but is it not time that the speed limit on motorways was increased? I have no problem whatsoever with the limits in built up areas etc but the 70 mph limit is pathetically low considering that the motorways are safe and cars have improved unbelievably since the limit was set. If the limits were set on the basis of a cars stopping distance etc then a review could be called for given that a modern car with ABS will stop on the proverbial sixpence compared with the cars that were around when the limit was set (Morris Minor, drum brakes all round, wouldn't break the speed limit if it was thrown off beachy head etc etc). I know that the driver hasn't evolved as fast as the car etc but 70 is too low on motorways IMO. If governments were really serious about speed and it's supposed consequences, they would force the manufacturers to limit a cars speed to little above the national speed limit.
 
I think it's more about conserving fuel..............the faster you go, the more you use, the more greenhouse gases you produce, the sooner the earths fuels run out.
That was the reason why the limit for HGV's was brought down to 56mph..............that's the most economical speed with most vehicles.
 
Both ways?

Both ways?

Have seen some in the middle of the road, but they get spun around every now and again, to keep you on your toes.

The average speed ones will be the final answer I think. They are the ones spread accross the road, if you do the Notts to lincoln run there were some there.

Just think there will be no deaths in cars once we all slow down....untill we get stuck behind that caravan on the A17...oops another thread I believe
 
Mug? said:
Just think there will be no deaths in cars once we all slow down....
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It takes 8 deaths or serious incidents on a stretch of road to get a camera put up, 4 to get on of those flashy signs that tells you you're going too fast.
 
This is the criteria Lincs Road Safety Partnership gave me:

The current criteria for cameras are as follows:
Fixed site: Over the last 3 years there has to be at least 3 killed or serious
collisions per km. The site must score 22 points in a built up area and 18 points in a non built up area. The scoring being 5 points for a fatal or serious
collision and 1 point for a slight collision.
In addition a speed survey must show a free flowing 85%ile speed ( the
speed below which 85% of traffic travels) at or above the speed limit
plus 10% plus 2 mph. ie 30mph would require 35mph, 40mph - 46mph etc.

Mobile site requires 1 killed or serious collision per km in the previous 3 years
with reduced points criteria of 11 in built up areas and 9 in non built
up areas. In both cases we would need a significant number of the collisions to
have speed related causations.

It would also appear that if the local community badger their MP/Local Council they can also put speed reduction methods in place.
 
Crikey, this thread is scarey.
Speed cameras and vans are everwhere and most of you don't know what they look like, don't know which way they face, don't know what you can get done for, and don't know one from a trafficmaster camera or, by the looks of it, a polaroid camera:PDT_Xtremez_09:
No wonder there is just stupid erratic driving when someone sees anything that looks like a box on a post or a van with some stripes on it. And no wonder so many numb-nuts get done every day ::/:
 
tats said:
It takes 8 deaths or serious incidents on a stretch of road to get a camera put up, 4 to get on of those flashy signs that tells you you're going too fast.
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Unless you are in London.
On Lower Thames street they put up cameras for safety as the road narrowed during adjacent building works. A year after the works finished the cameras are still there.
 
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