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Downsizer said:
Offer advice, interview them, test them, process their admin, go to outreach events. Exactly like it’s always been essentially.
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why can't you do the initial application in the office. Surely you could assess some bodies ability face to face better than you can on a PC.
 
justintime129 said:
why can't you do the initial application in the office. Surely you could assess some bodies ability face to face better than you can on a PC.
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It’s just an initial registration online that weeds out the total dross. The rest is done in the afco.
 
Stevienics said:
A willing individual (all positions are interviewed] and a defined task for a flexible known period at a low cost, with no career management obligation and a manning tick.
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The downside being you can only interview what applies, and they aren't always the most competent or ideal person.
 
Many of my former colleagues have returned as FTRS, two of which surprised me enormously as they where hugely vocal about their reasons for PVR'ing, yet within 12 months had returned, unable to cope with the need to "be someone", and unable to earn the respect they demanded in civvy street that wasn't instantly available because of what was on their shoulders. Others have moved from regular to FTRS seamlessly because they were approaching the end of their career as a regular and didn't feel it was time to leave the comfort blanket the RAF offers. I don't know of anyone who has left the RAF, successfully carved out a new career and then left that after 3+ years to return to an FTRS role although I'm sure there are some, and I'd be interested to know why someone would leave a successful career in civvy street for an FTRS contract.

As for recruiting new entrants - as others have said, you can only interview those who apply. So many kids go to uni these days as a matter of course, then the pool of 18-21 year old applicants has already had most of the cream taken off. I've talked to several of my younger, non-uni graduate colleagues at work about military life, and not one of them has said that its something that they would be interested in doing. Neither of my kids have any desire to do it. The recruitment pool is very small indeed.
 
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The RAF used to 'keep it in the family' (In a non-Cornish or Forest of Dean sort of way) with children of servicemen joining up...keeping up the family tradition so to speak. My father, great uncle and a cousin all were in.. it seemed a bit of a natural progression.

As with MWD, neither of my bin lids showed any interest in joining, but saying that... I've always dissuaded them from joining aswell.
 
FOMz said:
The RAF used to 'keep it in the family'......... with children of servicemen joining up...keeping up the family tradition so to speak. My father, great uncle and a cousin all were in.. it seemed a bit of a natural progression.........neither of my bin lids showed any interest in joining.
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Much the same my dad and Mrs TB's mum and dad were all in the mob, her 2 sisters also married RAF blokes yet none of the offspring from all 3 marriages have shown any interest in joining. My 2 have never even asked about service life I have not purposely dissuaded them or overtly encouraged them, they just seem to have no interest in joining the 21st Century Air Force.
 
Some, with the arrival of a replacement MOA, have asked me if I’d return. Whilst the job was great that was a different time and a different RAF. If you’ve cut it on the outside the answer must be along the lines of ‘I couldn’t afford to come back’. Contrary to some opinions the forces pay is quite average when compared against civvy rates, bonuses and incentives like free shares, BUPA and such. I’d love to be winging it around the globe but I also like my lifestyle now.

I wouldn’t dissuade my two from joining but I’d steer them to commissions in any of the services...the difference in treatment, T’s & C’s etc is startling.
 
"They" want 500 re-entrants per year! At all levels.....:PDT_Xtremez_31:
 
. I don't know of anyone who has left the RAF, successfully carved out a new career and then left that after 3+ years to return to an FTRS role although I'm sure there are some, and I'd be interested to know why someone would leave a successful career in civvy street for an FTRS contract.
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youve just described me. 17 years outside. Why? Civilian life is pretty dull and you only have one life.
 
Downsizer said:
The downside being you can only interview what applies, and they aren't always the most competent or ideal person.
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Surely you only interview those with the necessary qualifications. What you describe happens in all walks of life
 
My take on reserves is youre doing it in your spare time and therefore don't see the everyday crap the full timers put up with. You can go go and do your bit knowing that at the end of the day you return to civilian life.

I work a couple of days for Royal mail. I like those 2 days but I couldn't work a full week.
 
justintime129 said:
Surely you only interview those with the necessary qualifications. What you describe happens in all walks of life
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Not to the same degree. With FTRS a lot is driven purely by location, so you get 1 person apply, who may be eligible, but isn't perfect making it a hobsons choice. plus you can apply 1 rank up. I've seen a fair few people promoted thru FTRS that are way out of their depth.

That isn't to say they all are, some are great. Some are after cushty numbers and free gym time.
 
Stevienics said:
youve just described me. 17 years outside. Why? Civilian life is pretty dull and you only have one life.
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Interesting that you fill that category. Your comments below suggest that whatever you did outside didn't command the respect that you expected from whatever you did. You also talk about it being cheap to live - does that mean you have moved back into service accommodation? What did you do with the property you had previously?

What job did you give up for a FTRS role?


Stevienics said:
Plusses;
no commute.
Excellent social life
cheap to live
being afforded more respect
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muttywhitedog said:
Interesting that you fill that category. Your comments below suggest that whatever you did outside didn't command the respect that you expected from whatever you did. You also talk about it being cheap to live - does that mean you have moved back into service accommodation? What did you do with the property you had previously?

What job did you give up for a FTRS role?
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The respect I allude to was in comparison to other similarly ranked individuals now, but also benchmarked also against the last episode with the RAF. My outside role was a global facing position, well remunerated. However, getting up at 4am to catch a Eurostar or Flight and pretending to share the same values with some pretty poor quality individuals has a limited shelf life. As I stated, you have just one life: how you live it is up to you.

I live in service accommodation during the week and return to my holiday home at weekends.
 
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