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JPA - One Year On

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A hugely positive move. There's lots to be impressed by, and although there have been a few teething problems, these were (in the main) because it was rushed to the RAF, and the training packages were cr@p. I'm a big fan.
 
Warwick Hunt said:
So...

How has it been for you?
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Well to be honest, it's been surprisingly ok. The only gripe I had was when we all had to change passwords all on the same day. Lol

Also they still have me at mt old place of work that I left in December. We shall see if JPA can run with all the 6000's, ha that should be fun.

SCJ
 
tommo9999 said:
A hugely positive move. There's lots to be impressed by, and although there have been a few teething problems, these were (in the main) because it was rushed to the RAF, and the training packages were cr@p. I'm a big fan.
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You can tell that you're not a drafter, sorry career manager anymore, they all think it's cr@p!!!! (LOL). From a PSF point of view, it's getting better but there is plenty of room for further improvement; pay being the biggest headache for the front line shineys!!

I wouldn't go so far as to say I'm a fan but I'm certainly not anti-JPA; it'll take at least another couple of years before we see the real benefits but in the meantime we all have to suffer the pain! Hope it's worth it.
 
tommo9999 said:
A hugely positive move. There's lots to be impressed by, and although there have been a few teething problems, these were (in the main) because it was rushed to the RAF, and the training packages were cr@p. I'm a big fan.
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See I always knew the air ranks participated on e-goat - Welcome to e-goat AMP

:PDT_Xtremez_30:
 
I thought it was okay even when I was drafting, but there were certainly some legacy issues, and non-transfer of information between PACMIS and JPA. Drafting would have remained alright but they've made more manpower cuts, with more to come.
 
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Pleased overall, Claims paid quick, leave sorted quick, helpful JPAC, and:PDT_Xtremez_35:

FANTASTICALY PATIENT HR STAFF :PDT_Xtremez_30: (Three cheers, Hip, Hip Hooray)

I have gone a year with nearly no issues,

one mistake occured this month in that JPA moved me into SLA, charged me abated food charge and stopped my HTD, I assume because somwhere, someone updated my information without checking.

Seriously I mean everything i say, THIS IS NOT A P1SS TAKE.
 
tommo9999 said:
I thought it was okay even when I was drafting, but there were certainly some legacy issues, and non-transfer of information between PACMIS and JPA. Drafting would have remained alright but they've made more manpower cuts, with more to come.
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Off Topic Does that mean we won't be seeing you back in the Mafia in a couple of years!!
 
I don't know, I can't get on it until the cannon fodder are online!!

Actually, the first time my pay was correct for nearly 6 months was with my first JPA pay packet.
 
Humble Scribe said:
Off Topic Does that mean we won't be seeing you back in the Mafia in a couple of years!!
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I don't think so. H Wycombe has never seemed too attractive a place. If it was still at Innsworth, then I would consider it, but as with any place/job, things are never the same when you go back. However, if those in their Ivory Towers send me back, I won't have a lot of choice. I just hope I managed to p!ss enough of them off before I left to ensure that it will be a no-goer.
 
tommo9999 said:
I don't think so. H Wycombe has never seemed too attractive a place. If it was still at Innsworth, then I would consider it, but as with any place/job, things are never the same when you go back. However, if those in their Ivory Towers send me back, I won't have a lot of choice. I just hope I managed to p!ss enough of them off before I left to ensure that it will be a no-goer.
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Thank Christ for that (LOL)!!
 
tommo9999 said:
I thought it was okay even when I was drafting, but there were certainly some legacy issues, and non-transfer of information between PACMIS and JPA. Drafting would have remained alright but they've made more manpower cuts, with more to come.
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Losing track of the DWR was some legacy issue.

I think I have now covered JPA from all angles; I was one half of my unit's change team a year ago, I am bog-standard Unit HR in my usual job, I was one of the Glasgow 9 and I have done an OOA.

It has many advantages, mainly from bringing so many legacy systems under one umbrella, but I think it will be a long time before it is completely bedded-in, much longer than the 2 years from initial roll-out that I gave it at first.

Looking at it from my day job, the guys on my sqn are away so frequently to different places that their pay and allowances are always playing catch-up - something that JPA should have eradicated. By the time they stop to take breath, we are sitting down with them going through 4 or more months worth of payslips trying to work out if it is correct. In fairness, it is correct more often than not. When it's wrong, however, we no longer have the oversight to work out why. We are still having to coach the guys in submitting iSupports because left to their own devices they come up with gems like "My pay is wrong, please fix it".
 
JPA is a cunning way of reducing outgoings from many points of view...obviously we have cut down on PSF (old money!) staff but also I believe, due to it's poorly managed introduction, that confidence has dropped in it to a point that many people don't bother with the smaller claims et al due...My leave plot is ruined this year due to the system having no shift stand down facility...being told to shove it in as leave and memo the HR people to get it given back...cos that happened!!

I barely touch the thing these days...
 
Vim_Fuego said:
JPA is a cunning way of reducing outgoings from many points of view...obviously we have cut down on PSF (old money!) staff but also I believe, due to it's poorly managed introduction, that confidence has dropped in it to a point that many people don't bother with the smaller claims et al due...My leave plot is ruined this year due to the system having no shift stand down facility...being told to shove it in as leave and memo the HR people to get it given back...cos that happened!!

I barely touch the thing these days...
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JPA, at its inception, was all about improving the level of service provided by personnel administration. It quickly became a cost-cutting project and that is why it barely worked last year and is only improving slowly.

I disagree with your view on smaller claims. Over the years I have passed over loads of small claims (>5 hour rates and the like) because I couldn't be ar$ed to fill out 3 sides of a F1771. Now, I just pop into work 5 minutes early and it's job done.

Confidence in the system is very low, for the reasons you stated. It will take a long time to rebuild that confidence, and the EDS contract may expire before it's up where it should be. I, for one, am very interested to see what happens over the next few months as the Army get to grips with it. I had the pleasure(!) of watching the Welsh Guards go through their JPA pre-training over the last couple of months. Many of their clerks are not computer-literate enough to work it out, never mind the grunts. They even had the advantage of seeing the live system in action, and despite several offers none of them were interested.
 
I work in a Joint environment, and the pongoes here have been all over us to get some early insight on the system. Their clerks have spent time with us, and have shown a really pro-active approach. I'm positive it will go reasonably well out here, but as mentioned elsewhere in this thread, it could be fairly difficult to get your "average" infantry soldier to use it properly.
 
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