JPA Personal Objectives

[scoobydoo8319]

When entering your personal objectives on JPA, do I put the date I set the objective or the date I want to have completed the objective?


Any help would be much appreciated

 

[Spearmint]

50/50 eh? I've always set my date as when I have started to achieve such an objective.

 

[Deserter]

When entering your personal objectives on JPA, do I put the date I set the objective or the date I want to have completed the objective?


Any help would be much appreciated

You put down the date that you expect to complete the objective and it must be within your reporting year.

If your doing studies that last longer than a year then put down where you expect to be at when your SJAR is due. You should have discussed this with your 1st RO.

Hope this helps

 

[Norman the Storeman]

You put down the date that you expect to complete the objective and it must be within your reporting year.

If your doing studies that last longer than a year then put down where you expect to be at when your SJAR is due. You should have discussed this with your 1st RO.

Hope this helps

Correct. Should have been sorted at your MPAR interview...if you had one!

 

[Spearmint]

Bugger! Looks like I had best get my Objectives on JPA changed then!

 

[scoobydoo8319]

Well all that all totally contradicts what I have been told today, lol. It has apparently been confirmed the date you put on the personal objectives is the date you set it, and best practise is for that to be at the start of your reporting period.

Oh what to do now, mmmm think I'll do as Spearmint said 50/50 and toss a coin!

 

[PVRisthefuture]

Well all that all totally contradicts what I have been told today, lol. It has apparently been confirmed the date you put on the personal objectives is the date you set it, and best practise is for that to be at the start of your reporting period.

That's what I was told too, and when you do it, it appears in your SJAR. Any entry outside your reporting period will not by entered on SJAR (learned from experience).

 

[Deserter]

That's what I was told too, and when you do it, it appears in your SJAR. Any entry outside your reporting period will not by entered on SJAR (learned from experience).

Yes, you do set your objectives at the begining of your reporting period. But it is what you hope to achieve during your reporting period.

So after you have had your SJAR you should sit down with your 1st RO to discuss what you hope to achieve in the NEXT reporting period.

This could be mil courses, civ courses or many diff things.

Your 1st RO should be advising you of this and if not, they are not doing there job. Ask your 2nd RO for advise if your not confident of the 1st ROs response.

This will affect your SJAR! But remember, it is still your responsibility!DT_Xtremez_32:

 

[unruly1986]

DEFINITELY the date the objective is set.

Now another question... Do people `fill up` their objectives throughout the year? Therefore having 8 completed objectives come SJAR season?

 

[Pop Star's Wages]

DEFINITELY the date the objective is set.

Now another question... Do people `fill up` their objectives throughout the year? Therefore having 8 completed objectives come SJAR season?

You put down the date that you expect to complete the objective and it must be within your reporting year.

Personally I am with Deserter on this. On my SJAR I enter the date I expect to complete the objective and will amend the date if necessary.

I also add/remove objectives during the reporting period dependding on circumstances (ie I have an objective with an expected completion date next year, as I am now going OOA I wwill remove that objective when I get five minutes to do so)

 

[Deserter]

DEFINITELY the date the objective is set.

Now another question... Do people `fill up` their objectives throughout the year? Therefore having 8 completed objectives come SJAR season?

Your objectives are set at the begining of the reporting period with your 1st RO. The only reason you should change them, is if you are posted and cannot complete or you are going out of area and again cannot complete.

You should not just delete an objective because you can not complete it. Also you should not add them as you complete them. But again this is up to your 1st RO to tell you. Then again, if they are not doing there job and dont notice,DT_Xtremez_14: crack on. Its your SJAR!

 

[unruly1986]

I can't see why all objectives have to be set at the start of the reporting period and then 'set in stone', so to speak.

What if, halfway through the reporting period, you are tasked with a significant job or moved to a different section which presents the opportunity to achieve a 'new' objective?

As for the date set, this is the date the objective begins; this is what is being taught at the SJAR workshop here on camp and at other camps the same instructor goes to.

 

[tfloops]

At some places, it doesn't matter as you don't get any input from your 1st RO on objectives. Instead you have to try and guess what to put in and then get it approved by the chief and not the 1st RO.

And to top it off, the response of "well we don't have any from our boss" must mean that we don't get any either. Mint!

 

[muttywhitedog]

I am a 1st RO and also TG17. This is what I do for my subordinates and also encourage my fellow 1st RO's on my Sqn to do:

Day 1 of their reporting period (ie 2 Sep for a Cpl). Objectives are set with target dates in the description (ie Pass ECDL by 1 Feb XX). This usually co-incides with the debrief on last years' appraisal.

Mid-term. We review their objectives. Some may have been met, some may be "ongoing". Some may need to be removed because they are no longer achievable through no fault of the individual. Set new objectives (on the date of the mid-term) as required.

Appraisal time comes round and I have a whole heap of objectives which I can then write about in their report whether the subject has met them or not.

 

[Little Tronk]

Objectives have to be fluid for a myriad of reasons - posted , promoted achieved early, unachievable etc. My advice is to constantly keep them updated as required so that they are always VALID. Set in stone for a year or even 6 months could mean a whole page of INVALID objectives.

 

[unruly1986]

Objectives have to be fluid for a myriad of reasons - posted , promoted achieved early, unachievable etc. My advice is to constantly keep them updated as required so that they are always VALID. Set in stone for a year or even 6 months could mean a whole page of INVALID objectives.

Cheers, that's what I thought and is the way I go about setting my objectives.

Why have uncompleted/invalid objectives on the SJAR? It's about selling yourself to the promotion board.

I was already in when JPA/SJAR came online, do recruits now receive training on SJARs and objective setting, etc? Some of the people in my peer group don't have a clue about objectives when asked.

 

[Deserter]

Objectives have to be fluid for a myriad of reasons - posted , promoted achieved early, unachievable etc. My advice is to constantly keep them updated as required so that they are always VALID. Set in stone for a year or even 6 months could mean a whole page of INVALID objectives.

That is very true, but your 1st RO should be on top of your objectives. The reason being, that you set an objective at the start, half way through, when ever and you decide you cant be arsed to complete it, so your 1st RO should comment on this in your SJAR. So if you set an objective, make sure its acheivable.

 

[muttywhitedog]

My advice is to constantly keep them updated as required so that they are always VALID. Set in stone for a year or even 6 months could mean a whole page of INVALID objectives.

Or it could mean that objectives that a subject failed to meet were being removed to make them look better than they actually are.

 

[duffman]

Your objectives are set at the begining of the reporting period with your 1st RO.

Really, I never heard that at the SJAR workshop, never had it done with me nor anyone else I know, mind you the same above goes for MPAR/6 monthly never saw them done or had one.

 

[Little Tronk]

That is very true, but your 1st RO should be on top of your objectives. The reason being, that you set an objective at the start, half way through, when ever and you decide you cant be arsed to complete it, so your 1st RO should comment on this in your SJAR. So if you set an objective, make sure its acheivable.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if you change your objectives your first RO or next in hierachy has to approve them?