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Leave Policy Change - No Zeroing after 3 yrs.

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Hi All,

Just in case you didn't know, leave will not now be zeroed after 3 yrs. So you won't lose any leave next year.

You will still lose it on posting though.

New IBN came out yesterday (just come in off nights)

Carry over 15 as usual. (Can't see the IBN on Airspce yet though)

Gray
 
Good news but is it because of a change of policy or because they can't program JPA to deduct all those days and it's far too much work for all the admin types to do?
 
I'm currently squeezing in as much leave in as i can as i am due OOA for 6 months later this year - I was told i would lose my leave in Apr 12.

On the bus off the bus!
 
Same with me, i've taken and planned loads extra to avoid losing any. I read that they reversed this policy after hugely negative feedback - next time perhaps look at that first, cretins.
 
We were visited by COS Pers a couple of weeks ago, and he was asked by me about whether there was going to be a re-think on the compulsary re-setting of leave, seeing as when it was announced 3 years ago we were not losing 5,000 personnel and also not waging war on Libya.

His reply was that he was getting the same message loud and clear everywhere he visited.

It seems some airships do actually listen to the blokes on the coalface and act accordingly.
 
The cancellation on posting still stands. We are still expected to pay for the incompetent management skills of our superiors in some way.
 
What exactly is the leave that people are losing on posting? Should only be AA as there is no way to reduce ILA.

The best advice I can give with anyone with AA on their record (should be too much) is to cancel some and rebook it to scoop up the AA before the ILA.
 
SgtScribbly said:
What exactly is the leave that people are losing on posting? Should only be AA as there is no way to reduce ILA.

The best advice I can give with anyone with AA on their record (should be too much) is to cancel some and rebook it to scoop up the AA before the ILA.
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and of course if you have more than 38 days leave, then just stick a month's leave in for December, then cancel it nearer the time.
 
SgtScribbly said:
What exactly is the leave that people are losing on posting? Should only be AA as there is no way to reduce ILA.
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Please bear in mind that I haven't been a "JPA Professional User" for a little while now, but you could reduce ILA when it first came out, what's changed?
 
Are there procedures in place to apply for your leave to not be reset on posting? I ask as I was deployed in April and got my posting notice while I was deployed. Once i've taken my PODL and week stand down we have been awarded for not getting R&R, I won't have touched my rather excessive leave balance and will be am due to report to my new unit before the Squadron is due back from leave.
 
SgtScribbly said:
What exactly is the leave that people are losing on posting? Should only be AA as there is no way to reduce ILA.
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You lose any leave (AA or ILA) you carried forward from the previous year - if you carried 15 days forward and get posted you need to make sure you have taken those 15 days leave before you move.
 
I don't care what anyone says but it's theft of earned leave IMO. Maybe that's why there's been some back pedalling.
 
techie_tubby said:
Are there procedures in place to apply for your leave to not be reset on posting? I ask as I was deployed in April and got my posting notice while I was deployed. Once i've taken my PODL and week stand down we have been awarded for not getting R&R, I won't have touched my rather excessive leave balance and will be am due to report to my new unit before the Squadron is due back from leave.
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Get your posting delayed.

Failing that, do as I suggested and stick in 1-31 December now.
 
goodlittlewifey said:
You lose any leave (AA or ILA) you carried forward from the previous year - if you carried 15 days forward and get posted you need to make sure you have taken those 15 days leave before you move.
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ILA is all your different types of leave (ALA AA POL etc) bundled together. ALA is your Annual Leave Allowance of 38 days.


ALA cannot be adjusted by Unit HR.

Part of the posting checksheet that is followed by a PD Clerk for a posting instructs them to zero any excess AA (but see previous suggestions further up the thread for getting around this) but the policy of zeroing ALA is not supported by JPA functionality so cant be carried out. There was a policy letter Feb 10 that first mentioned this.

I hear some units have come up with their own way of enforcing the policy by "adding" a minus figure on to peoples AA which brings down the overall ILA figure, but they are doing this without any authority to do so and complete fcuks up leave balances for future leave years.
 
Policy in...policy out.....bl00dy hoke cokey or what?

Mind you, typical military, implement something that can be circumnavigated by sticking in some leave then cancelling it...ffs do they actually have a clue?:PDT_Xtremez_35:
 
clungemobile said:
Policy in...policy out.....bl00dy hoke cokey or what?

Mind you, typical military, implement something that can be circumnavigated by sticking in some leave then cancelling it...ffs do they actually have a clue?:PDT_Xtremez_35:
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You have answered your own question Sir!:PDT_Xtremez_19:
 
SgtScribbly said:
I hear some units have come up with their own way of enforcing the policy by "adding" a minus figure on to peoples AA which brings down the overall ILA figure, but they are doing this without any authority to do so and complete fcuks up leave balances for future leave years.
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So it can be done and they have the authority of directed policy (not that I agree with the policy but that's not the point here). Why does it screw things up for future years?
 
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