No more crusaders

[Tin basher]

OK its in the Mail. But it seems a single complaint has ended up with 14 Sqn removing all references to the word crusaders. Inclusivity in action or over blown wokery?

"The RAF said last night: 'As a modern and diverse Service, our focus must be on not giving prominence to any offensive term that goes against the values of the Royal Air Force. Therefore, 14 Squadron have ceased using their historic unofficial nickname. 'The traditions and informal nicknames used by the RAF in the earlier days have a place in our history. However, some are no longer appropriate in the 21st Century.'"

RAF squadron ditches 'Crusaders' nickname - as it's 'insulting'

14 Squadron got its nickname after its airmen flew sorties over Gaza and Palestine during World War I. But a crew member filed a formal complaint with top brass insisting the term was insulting

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[muttywhitedog]

Airbrushing history is not the way forward. We own our history, good and bad, and so should every other country and the religions within that country.

I believe the prophet Mohammed had a 3rd bride, Aisha. The marriage was consummated when she was 9.

 

[Spearmint]

I wonder which loony toon zob came up with this bright idea?

What's the betting they are an acolyte of Wiggy?

 

[Donkey871]

New nickname sweepstake?
I'll put my money on 'Rainbow Unicorns'

 

[muttywhitedog]

I wonder which loony toon zob came up with this bright idea?

What's the betting they are an acolyte of Wiggy?

I'm pretty sure Wokeston was OC Crusaders at one point.

 

[norfolkred1]

Don't mention THE dog.......

 

[busby1971]

Do we still have Shitty Six

 

[Flumpdaddy]

Did they get to have a last crusade a la Indiana Jones? Or are the going for a Prince tribute as "14 Sqn (Formerly known as The Crusaders)"

 

[Wobbly_Jon]

Strange that during TELIC the locals in Al Udied, Ali Al Salem etc didn't complain when 14 Sqn were flying out of their air bases. Then you get an in-service whinger and it's all change, total woke ball cocks

 

[mullah lite]

Whoa, hold on a minute.

Is this offensive too?

More to the point, has the official responsible for witty and cutting replies to stupid or vexatious complaints gone on leave?

 

[Allflapnofly]

Fortunate that these Crusaders are no more.....

 

[UlsterExile]

Thought Knighton was going to change things, seems no change at the top then. Normal service has resumed!!!!!!!!!!!! Leonard Cheshire, Keith Park etc will be turning in their grave at the current leadership. People of that era gave their live for free speech, not for history to be taken away and erased.

 

[mullah lite]

Thought Knighton was going to change things, seems no change at the top then. Normal service has resumed!!!!!!!!!!!! Leonard Cheshire, Keith Park etc will be turning in their grave at the current leadership. People of that era gave their live for free speech, not for history to be taken away and erased.

Free speech? The speech that was to be protected by the 'new' bill.

That's gone!

Edit..link

Controversial free-speech law delayed 'over anti-semitism fears'

The law could see universities and student unions fined for failing to uphold freedom of speech. A government source brands it "an antisemites' charter" but a senior Tory says the decision to delay it is "chilling".

news.sky.com

 

[4mastacker]

It would appear that jellyfish leadership is alive and flourishing in today's Royal Air Force. Still, I suppose this decision will do wonders for someone's ACR ( or whatever they're called now).

 

[Downsizer]

The real shame here is no one has complained about Six Hundred and Seventeen Squadron, I find those primos offensive. Those knobbers could be taken down a peg or two....

 

[busby1971]

Can’t believe I read a Lewis Page article on this, and I agreed with him, hopefully won’t happen again.

 

[Dazzy26]

As an Ex-Crusader this decision is ridiculous. I have also seen in other sites (and this one) as well as social media the OC Sqn and CAS being called all sorts! I think people need to realise that it's the Service Complaints system and an individual that has caused this. SC's now go straight to the SC Team at Air Command, they do not to via the OC Sqn or Stn Cdr any more. The SCT deem whether the complaint is admissible or not. If it is, they appoint an investigator and decision body. Only the person(s) the SC is raised against are notified. Once as SC outcome is issued (either complaint upheld or not). Then the only course of appeal beyond that is the SC Ombudsmen. The SC policy is controlled at MoD level not individual Service.
The SC system is being abused left, right and centre that is the issue.

 

[Cat Techie]

Do we still have Shitty Six

The Shiney Six. Get your facts straight.

 

[Talk Wrench]

No doubt the Crusaders will fall at the upcoming defence review.

 

[Cat Techie]

No doubt the Crusaders will fall at the upcoming defence review.

Hope not, its one way to get your CAA ticket with type. We need those boys outside to keep our airlines going.