Harsh, but very true. :S
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Harsh, but very true. :S
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gemarriott
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That is why there should be no place for single parents or mums whose husbands (and vice versa) cannot look after the children in the Forces.
It is a parents job to raise their kids, not a grandparent or in extreme circumstances Social Services while mum or dad swan off on det.
I you can't look after your kids while in the mob either don't have any or leave
Yes I agree, I don't know any mothers that don't do their fair share of duties and dets! Not beacuse of their kids anyway, but that another story.
I dont have any kids, but if I did would never use them to get out of doing what is required of me by the RAF.
Thats a bit harsh. So what you are saying is that if a woman has kids in the RAF and her hubby leaves her or dies, she has to immediately leave, even if she can make other childcare arrangements and still honour her RAF committments?
What if she cant afford to? That is totally unrealistic, women in civvie jobs have to leave their kids with grandparents etc once in a while.
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gemarriott
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That is exactly what I'm saying.
I am a grandparent who cares for 2 X 5 year old twins every mornng and evening while Mum and Dad are at work so i am well aware of childcare issues. I do not however look after them for 4 months whilst their parents are away on OOA. I repeat it is a parent's job to look after and raise their kids not a grandparents job.
Just for clarity it is you that is making this a "woman" issue, if you read my post I do not differentiate between single fathers and single mothers.
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POW
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Oh for the old days before everyone got soft. If you got preggers then we were out as soon as the paperwork was completed. God how i hate to see WRAF's in uniform pushing pushchairs or walking with kids. Bring back the good old days.
I suppose I made it sound like a woman issue, maybe because all the people I know in that situation are women. I know thats obviously not the case, but I still think its quite a harsh and unrealistic expectation, man or woman.
But everyone has thier own opinion I suppose.
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Vman921
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Tw**s
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My missus is based in lincoln and I'm based in London. I work shift for 4 days then spend 4 days looking after my 2 and half year old daughter.
My parents are in West Wales, Her Mother lives in Southern France and her father lives in Gloucester.
What chods in this forum are saying is my missus who is classed as a single mum should come out?
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I got to get married which still dosen't guarantee co-location.
We share our commitment between raising a child and the service. Nothing gets in the way of service commitments so we have a ball ache every time my missus does guard, mess functions or OOA.
Engage brain before opening mouths before you go on about WRAFs because not all single parents are wasters in the RAF.
DT_Xtremez_32:
Tw**s
My missus is based in lincoln and I'm based in London. I work shift for 4 days then spend 4 days looking after my 2 and half year old daughter.
My parents are in West Wales, Her Mother lives in Southern France and her father lives in Gloucester.
What chods in this forum are saying is my missus who is classed as a single mum should come out?
or
I got to get married which still dosen't guarantee co-location.
We share our commitment between raising a child and the service. Nothing gets in the way of service commitments so we have a ball ache every time my missus does guard, mess functions or OOA.
Engage brain before opening mouths before you go on about WRAFs because not all single parents are wasters in the RAF.
DT_Xtremez_32:I'm amazed at some of the comments on here. The poor girl has a life changing event and wants advice, not a lecture.
Then some of you start arguing with each other. Pathetic.
The OP has hopefully read between the lines, noted the sage advice and will act upon that.
Good luck to you whatever you decide.
Then some of you start arguing with each other. Pathetic.
The OP has hopefully read between the lines, noted the sage advice and will act upon that.
Good luck to you whatever you decide.
Being an old git from a different era I have no idea how the air force operates in supporting single parents while remaining operationally effective. I'm totally baffled in how this system works today so much must have changed.
Emzipoo has received the advice she was looking for and my guess is she already knows that it is not going to be easy.
Having said this, it seems that a number of other people have been in this sort of position and it worked out okay. So chin girl, don’t let this put you off and proceed as planned. Have a good career.
Emzipoo has received the advice she was looking for and my guess is she already knows that it is not going to be easy.
Having said this, it seems that a number of other people have been in this sort of position and it worked out okay. So chin girl, don’t let this put you off and proceed as planned. Have a good career.
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Donald Rumsfeld
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Go to your PSF and Medical Centre and inform them immediateley. Ignore the bigots/sexist/ignorant that have posted on here.
Best of luck to you and baby.
How are the people on here bigots, sexist or ignorant?? Do you understand what any of them mean. People are posting their OPINIONS because it is what they think. The problem here is that you are actually intolerant of our opinions which actually makes YOU the bigot!!!!
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Modern PCism for you RAF Bird. You're a bigot if your opinions or views don't conform to what is ow termed 'acceptable'.
DT_Xtremez_14:DT_Xtremez_14:If that makes me a bigot, I'm proud to be one.
Modern PCism for you RAF Bird. You're a bigot if your opinions or views don't conform to what is ow termed 'acceptable'.
If that makes me a bigot, I'm proud to be one.
Monty you are very right there!
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Donald Rumsfeld
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Keep you legs crossed or lie on your front the next time.
Up to a certain point you should have little trouble doing your training, but again it depends "how far gone" you currently are and how long the training is.
Yep- sexist,bigoted and ignorant !
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Nope, just not indoctrinated, pink and fluffy. In fact, most replies have been realistic.
You see, the Pinko lefty PC brigade really fcuk people off.
That's all.
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No mate we're just not all as tunnel visioned as you. All of them comments IMO have sense in them it is just that you disagree. None of them comments are making a personal attack at the OP they are just stating their thoughts on the matter. You need to wake up and smell the coffee.
PS you see them little smileys eg:
DT_Xtremez_26:DT_Xtremez_42:DT_Xtremez_30:DT_Xtremez_35:DT_Xtremez_19:DT_Xtremez_32: .... they are a way of showing humour with a post so when you see:Keep you legs crossed or lie on your front the next time.
it means that the comment is tongue in cheek and just in case you dont understand what that means, it means that he is joking!! You do know what a joke is,............ dont you?
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