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chumpzilla said:
To bring it nicely back on topic.....

And they wonder why people are leaving in their droves?
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Trainees at Cosford are told that 90 is the premier TG4 posting; see the world, get promoted, do loads of courses.

The percieved reality for many is that there isn't much going on at Leeming, apart from gym time, parades and skill fade. 4 years to boot? Bye bye.
 
Engineer Branch & Trades bulletin

Engineer Branch & Trades bulletin

TG4 ICT Tech. Inflow (recruiting) to the trade has fallen significantly short of the ITT for the past 3 years,
which has resulted in a growing shortfall between strength (i.e. the number of trained people we actually
have) and liability (the number we should have). This shortfall is most striking at SAC(T), where the
manning level is expected to fall to 75% by April 2015. A large range of measures have been taken to
improve recruiting including priority advertising and AFCO focus, lowering the recruiting age to 16, and
reviewing Airman Selection Test requirements. Additionally, a Golden Hello case has recently been
approved by AMP&C that will provide new entrants with a £2000 lump sum on completion of training. While
this is a small amount, we believe it will be attractive to school leavers. Extension of service offers have
also been made where applicable to aid retention. Recruiting & Selection are also developing a sponsorship
route for University Technical College students to join the Trade. Retention rates are not currently a cause
for concern but are monitored regularly.
 
Now that is one of the most common sense things I have heard in a while with sound logic.

Never going to happen................
 
Except that it would just push the problem further up the chain to positions they can't directly recruit into. If you're TG4 and think that's a great idea, I can understand why the trade is on its @rse.


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Disagree.

The problem is that JNCOs are no longer looked on as JNCOs in most part of the trade but JTs with stripes. Hence the reason why there is more JNCOs than required in my view.
 
The NATO thing would not have helped in my view. A lot of JNCO posts were disestablished and re-established as SNCO posts I understand! Unless this has changed since and a lot of NATO posts have been completely disbanded.

Doesn't help when you also have certain companies who are contracted by the MOD who insist that certain pieces of equipment are to maintained by JNCO and above only. Tail wagging dog and all that. And rank is no indicator of the experience or ability.
 
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Rugby-Jock-Lad said:
The NATO thing would not have helped in my view. A lot of JNCO posts were disestablished and re-restablished as SNCO posts I understand! Unless this has changed since and a lot of NATO posts have been completely disbanded.

Doesn't help when you also certain companies who are contracted by the MOD who insist that certain equipments are to maintained by JNCO and above only. Tail wagging dog and all that. And rank is no indicator of the rank or ability.
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And this is why so many roles, that can be done to the highest standards by an experienced SAC(T), are now Cpl positions. This has done nothing but erode the once appreciated promotion to JNCO, to something viable after 3 reports.
 
hugo_a_go_go said:
And this is why so many roles, that can be done to the highest standards by an experienced SAC(T), are now Cpl positions. This has done nothing but erode the once appreciated promotion to JNCO, to something viable after 3 reports.
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If only we had some rank between SAC and Cpl which involved further training or greater technical nouse to highlight the significant step up!!
 
Now let me think.............................. i might put a GEMS in for a new rank called LCpl. Can't have JT as to be promoted from SAC(Technician) to Junior Technician sounds like going backwards
 
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