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SAC(T) - Cpl Board 2014

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Being an ex- TG3 (LTECHAF) I don't get this amalgamation with the TG4 Peanuts. I hear stories that a TG4 FS/WO can be looking after a servicing flight and/or a commcen regardless of whether they are tech or non tech.

Anyway, it sounds a daft question but on the basis that it was daft to amalgamate TG3 and TG4 in the first place, does it mean that an ICT SAC(T) is competing with a Peanut SAC for a place on the promotion board?
 
Well let's just say that an experienced Instructor colleague of mine at a certain Midlands Training Establishment who is a JNCO is seeing lots of young Ex-11 Peanuts doing their IMLC. And newer TG 4 bods are getting promoted ahead of experienced SAC(T) Ex 3s who keep getting a kicking every year on the SAC - Cpl promotion boards. The whole concept was designed to look after the Ex-11s while demolishing the 3s. That is what is happening. And another SNCO colleague of mine at the same establishment also questions the maturity of the new 4s at JNCO level.

Hope that answers your question Gonterseed.
 
Don't quite agree with the previous posters "colleagues". The majority of the tg4 SACs I've had dealings with are highly motivated and most of them are extremely switched on and well qualified before entry.Some ex tg3 (including me to be honest) still have a chip on our shoulders about the whole amalgamation. I believe some old and bold SACs can't hide their frustration at seeing "junior" SACs getting promoted ahead of them and may switch off; this is noted by the CoC and comes across as a failing in their sjars. This just makes the whole situation worse and self perpetuating.
 
I do agree with you 4ever reference the motivation. That's not the problem. What is being questioned is the maturity, general trade knowledge (ICT, electronics, H&S, QA etc) and experience which many ex 3 SACs (who are legacy and hence are needed but not wanted) already have but who are being cast aside. And yes the problem is self perpetuating.
And believe me. I know it's at the extreme but when you meet a 4.5 year Cpl (new TG4) who acts like a 3 year old........
 
good and bad in all

good and bad in all

the issue for me is the diversity of the trade. One minute you're flying to MPA to fix a radar that caught fire, less than 2 weeks later your off to Oman to stamp signals for 4 months, irrispective of bed nights away. How can you compare someone who is sat baby sitting comms when the support policy dictates they cannot touch against someone doing a 9-5 on a help desk passing faults and requests over to the contractor?

I've the pleasure of some great 4 lads, who all happen to be switched on, at the same time I've met some who clearly show how the air force got an 'investors in people' plaque.

As one of a handful of 3's sac's left (i'll never truly be 4) i do see the maturity issue, could the same not be said for 3's and 11's? but im a bit longer in the tooth and hope, they grow into the role learning from mistakes so not to repeat them, under guidance from seniors irrespective of past trade groups.
 
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Grow up.. ZZZzzzzz. Same old, same old.

Grow up.. ZZZzzzzz. Same old, same old.

Rugby-Jock-Lad said:
Well let's just say that an experienced Instructor colleague of mine at a certain Midlands Training Establishment who is a JNCO is seeing lots of young Ex-11 Peanuts doing their IMLC. And newer TG 4 bods are getting promoted ahead of experienced SAC(T) Ex 3s who keep getting a kicking every year on the SAC - Cpl promotion boards. The whole concept was designed to look after the Ex-11s while demolishing the 3s. That is what is happening. And another SNCO colleague of mine at the same establishment also questions the maturity of the new 4s at JNCO level.

Hope that answers your question Gonterseed.
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From what I've seen the newer 'TG4 Bods' are very motivated and reading statements like this will fuel them even more so. The Ex 3s that you know who are 'getting a kicking every year' (your words), obviously aren't doing something right.

Each candidate is graded annually and INDIVIDUALLY, no matter which trade training they went through.

It's not a big conspiracy, everyone has the same opportunity to shine to the board, they have just got to play their part.

Some people seem stuck in their bitter ways, god help some of you if the trade does split again, it will be like a Royal Rumble. :PDT_Xtremez_14:
 
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We're all one big happy fcukin family

We're all one big happy fcukin family

As it was said, you seem sure which branch you would prefer... certainly didn't mean anything by it... but if there is a 'royal rumble' I'm tagging out the King Dick spanner.
 
The Original Weasel said:
As it was said, you seem sure which branch you would prefer... certainly didn't mean anything by it... but if there is a 'royal rumble' I'm tagging out the King Dick spanner.
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Oh right, was a little confused then haha, long night shift and all that Zzzzz, if you're tagging out the King Dick Spanner then i'm just gonna jump out the ring altogether! But whatever floats your boat eh

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XC
 
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I know of a chap who's number 50 and he's been released and is waiting on a slot at his new place. Also heard from same chap they've got to number 60 now.... So not a bad board after all
 
Another lad I spoke to is 56 and he says he's getting it. He also went onto remark that they have reached 60.

Just passing on the gen I hear
 
Where the hell are all these people going? TG4 is like an upside down christmas tree business model. The marbel tower monkey's are successfully eroding the rank of Cpl to a point where it's basically just an experienced SAC(T) with three "clean" assessments :PDT_Xtremez_42:
 
hugo_a_go_go said:
Where the hell are all these people going? TG4 is like an upside down christmas tree business model. The marbel tower monkey's are successfully eroding the rank of Cpl to a point where it's basically just an experienced SAC(T) with three "clean" assessments :PDT_Xtremez_42:
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In many sections that is the case - certain civilian organisations stipulate that to work on the kit you have to be 'x' rank i.e. Cpl.
 
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