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Suarez is a diving, cheating c**t and now he bites people too!

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I have just had a bit of a Epiphany in the vexed question of what to do with players that dive, or even drag a foot to get someone sent off.

Get the fourth official to show the replay to the offended manager (lets say for the sake of argument this is old red nose), and give them the call on whether the opposition player should be sent off for the "offence". If he does, put it on the scoreboard.

Obvious? Think about it for a minute - what can you tell me about "game theory"?

It would turn a sour moment into a clash of inelegant, rather thick titans simply trying to work out what to do next.
 
In my opinion, Luis Suarez is the worst cheat in English football ( special mention though for Gareth Bale). I remember him rollingaround like he had been shot when he got Jack Rodwell sent off, although Kenny didnt see it, like Brenda didnt see him dive the other day. He is a victim now of his own shocking behaviour, I hope he never gets a decision again the obnoxious little scrote. I would like to see him at least get booked for this horrible behaviour, diving, card waiving, rolling around etc.

As for retrospective action, I dont think that would work as we would be calling for it for every bad decision. However, I just hope hes damaged his already tarnished reputation in the eyes of the refs, and he never gets the benefit of the doubt again.
 
Well as Stoke plummet towards relegation, I can only agree with the comments made about Pulis earlier in this thread, his lack of vision means we have run out of ideas.

On another point though is that yet again Suarez brings the whole of Liverpool FC into disrepute, his bite was malicious and I struggle to see how the club can let him continue as he is a real liability, it would also be a travesty if he gets PFA Player of the Year, how can they justify ever giving it to a racist cheat who assaults opponents in such a disgraceful way.
 
Well with the set of teeth that Suarez has to carry round with him on a day to day basis, it's a surprise that he doesn't inflict damage to anyone he bumps into either on or off the pitch.
 
penfold93 said:
Well as Stoke plummet towards relegation, I can only agree with the comments made about Pulis earlier in this thread, his lack of vision means we have run out of ideas.

On another point though is that yet again Suarez brings the whole of Liverpool FC into disrepute, his bite was malicious and I struggle to see how the club can let him continue as he is a real liability, it would also be a travesty if he gets PFA Player of the Year, how can they justify ever giving it to a racist cheat who assaults opponents in such a disgraceful way.
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There is an irony in the fact that the supporter of the biggest team of utter cnuts in the league largely only comes on here to complain about one cnut !!

That said, I was at the game on Sunday and came out feeling mildly pleased that we'd nabbed an equaliser right at the death and was able to walk past the Chelsea fans whining like fnuk about Benitez decision to substitute Hazard for Benayoun. Get back to the car and turn on the radio while waiting for the cattle charge for the exits to clear and am presented with this latest sh1t storm. Total deflation. I'm totally sick of this, he won't get PFA player of the year or if the decision has already been taken and he did win then they should steam open the envelope and replace his name with whoever came second, Bale presumably.
Fining him? Ian Ayre can kiss my hairy swingers, thats not enough. Why leave it to the FA to take the inevitable decision? Suspend him until the end of the season at least and then wait and see what the FA add on to go into next season and put feelers out for buyers in the meantime.
 
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I don't think he should be banned.

Make the punishment fit the crime and make him wear a muzzle in all competitions for the remainder of this season and up to the same date next season.
 
If this was Sunday League football the FA would ban him for life, because he is worth over £20 million then he will only be banned for a few games.There is no defence for such disgusting behaviour, the man has a few screws loose.
 
He is a complete cnut. The FA will rightly throw the book at him, but the FA's inconsistency is a joke. Aguero got absolutely nothing for a 2-footed challenge. Jooke
 
I'm not defending Suarez and will accept any punishment he his given, but I feel that the fa are punishing the man not the crime. A precedent as already been set for no ban. Defoe did the same thing against mascherino in 2006, ok the ref booked him and the fa said they were unable to punish him but that is a load of rubbish. There have been worse incidents this year, what about aguero and mcnannamans tackles.
 
I'd like to think that the ban bars him from receiving his unbelievable wages whilst under it but I suppose his contract will determine otherwise. His club are shocked? Why? Should've been ABH, court, jail IMO, especially considering his previous.
 
The club are already bleating about the length of ban. I'm not sure why as he's got previous and a lengthy ban. He and they should just suck it up.
 
It's a pity that money rules the game otherwise he'd be out on his @rse. There again, it's much like life in general, greed for the filthy lucre overrules any common sense, just as in politics.
 
How Violent was it though

How Violent was it though

I struggle to see how it is classed as violent conduct for such a long ban, smells of trying to do what the papers want them to do.
Surely there is another charge- bringing game into disrepute or something.
I see a lot more violent conduct week in week out. There was a potential nasty challenge on the Monday that I don't even think got a yellow?
He should have elbowed him in the face or broke his leg would have got less of a ban?
 
firestorm said:
The club are already bleating about the length of ban. I'm not sure why as he's got previous and a lengthy ban. He and they should just suck it up.
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Well the club haven't said anything and are awaiting the written verdict tomorrow accroding to a short statement on the website, but other than that correct, it was never going to be less than 7 as thats what he got in Holland! I'm getting sick of hearing about Luis Suarez in a negative light and don't have a problem with the ban; as someone who goes to matches its all we hear from many fans especially away from Anfield. And just when the last one was dying down - over which I had stated and obvious reservations, primarily about the way the decison was reached - he goes and does this.

Anyway, for those who follow and discuss football for football's sake, and not because they are just passing an opinion on the latest bandwagon, I read this today by Martin Samuel. Normally anything Martin samuel says I'd automatically take the diametrically opposed point of view, but here he actually talks sense.
The piece is not about the Suarez ban, which at the time of writing he wouldn't have known the length of, but the way the FA grandstand when making their decisions. What he points out, amongst other things, is that in this latest Suarez case the FA are actually fortunate, from a making an example of him standpoint, that the referee Kevin Friend did not see the incident because by their own rules they could not then have acted. Ironically on the day it would have been better for Chelsea if Friend had seen the incident and sent Suarez off because he went on to score the equaliser with the last move of the match. But for the FA it would have meant a 3 match ban for violent conduct, 'sorry nothing more we can do because we can't re-referee the game'.
Utter b0llo0cks. That rule does nothing to ensure that players get disciplined even handedly which is surely what should be happening. Its well documented that if 12 people see a car crash the police will get 12 slightly diferent variations on what happened beacuse human beings do not necessarily recall accurately everything they see even a few moments afterwards. So the FA's disciplinary process hinges on the randomness of whether a referee sees an incident and then whether he correctly assess the seriousness of it in the seconds after. Every incident should be able to be looked at in the same way without the 'did the ref see it factor'. That way all the random off the ball incidents like headbuts, sly kicks, bites etc, and all the OTT play related actions like two footed leaps, leg breaking lunges and such like can be dealt with in the proper way.
 
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From the BBC website
"The club, who have until Friday at 1200 to appeal, said they were "shocked and disappointed" at the length of the suspension."
 
My mistake, missed that. Is that 'bleating' or just a natural expression of surprise when the reporter asked for a reaction to the news? Doesn't matter in the big scheme of things, hope the club just accepts the ban and gets on with it. We shall see.
 
firestorm said:
From the BBC website
"The club, who have until Friday at 1200 to appeal, said they were "shocked and disappointed" at the length of the suspension."
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They also seem to be rolling out assorted ex players who are also shocked and disappointed, not at Suarez's behaviour but the length of the ban.

On radio 2 this morning they had a mother from Liverpool area whose child had been bitten as per suarez who was disgusted with his actions.

Liverpool acted quickly and strongly making him apologise and fining him, I was under the misapprehension they would let him take his punishment like a man. Sadly all clubs are just as bad , would this have happened in the 70s when Shankly was in charge?
 
It's amasing isn't it, think of it this way:

A man goes to work one day and bites a delivery man on the arm. His company back him and are "shocked and disgusted" that they are forced to suspend him on full pay for 6 months!!
If this were the real world in any other company, especially considering he's also done the same thing in the past, he would have been sacked.

But, because he's a very good footballer who's earning several thousand pounds a second and earning others even more, people basically want him to get off with a slap on the wrist. Obviously his suspentions before for biting and racial abuse have had no impact on this spoilt prima dona. Personally i think that he and Liverpool should just shut up and accept his punishment like a man and, if there is another incident like this he should be banned from playing in the premiership altogether!

We talk about how our youth today have no morals or sense of right and wrong and then go and defend someone who is held up as an icon who assaults another player. This was no ill-timed tackle, this was out and out assault!!
 
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