So, we have had the long awaited FRI which has probably had the reverse effect and alienated more lads than it has captured, apart from crusty old chiefs that would have signed on for a hand job and a packet of crisps. The professional qualification incentive that everyone is thinking twice about after the AIP F00k up. If this next AFPRB report is to recommend an Engineers pay spine how do we think it will work? incremental pay for years served? or tiered off into ranks?