Happy to be proved wrong but I think the TS, like all WOs, can only be on SAC-Cpl Boards (and usually is). The Spec Officer for Cpl-Sgt is a Flt Lt, Sgt-FS is a Sqn Ldr and FS-WO is a Wg Cdr. The President of each Board is 1 rank higher than the Spec Member.
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Happy to be proved wrong but I think the TS, like all WOs, can only be on SAC-Cpl Boards (and usually is). The Spec Officer for Cpl-Sgt is a Flt Lt, Sgt-FS is a Sqn Ldr and FS-WO is a Wg Cdr. The President of each Board is 1 rank higher than the Spec Member.
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Sorry didn't mean to say the Supply Trade Sponsor was going to Chair the board just that they will become the Trade Specialist on forthcoming boards so there wouldn't be the rumours of a certain units WO picking his/her guys over and above other units.
This came from the Trade Sponsors visit a little over a month ago, this was the plan not the reality so it might not even happen...
Any fellow Stackers have names and locations of the lucky few so far then feel free to pm as I'm out on a bit of a limb here and don't hear the grapevine rumours...
This came from the Trade Sponsors visit a little over a month ago, this was the plan not the reality so it might not even happen...
Any fellow Stackers have names and locations of the lucky few so far then feel free to pm as I'm out on a bit of a limb here and don't hear the grapevine rumours...
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missed out
missed out
I cant beleive you missed out again, oh well does that mean i have to put up with you for another year?
missed out
I cant beleive you missed out again, oh well does that mean i have to put up with you for another year?
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A view of the Presidents Report for anyone who hasn't seen it yet...
PRESIDENT’S REPORT
CPL-SGT SUPPLR 23-27 JUN 08
GENERAL OBSERVATIONS
The following general observations were raised by the Board:
B Grade Candidates
A total of 11 ‘B’ grade candidates were read as part of the 10% check, and all were found to be promotable and therefore included on the Promotion Selection List. (PSL).
Report Writing
A great many of the Special and High Recommendations presented, lacked sufficient justification to substantiate the recommendation. It was felt that the pre-boarding scores reflected the promotion recommendations rather than the subjects’ narratives. The most competitive individuals were those whose reports testified to their suitability for promotion by sighting examples of potential leadership and ability to seek and accept managerial challenges. Many reports read as laudatory letters, thanking the individual for their endeavours, which although gratifying to the individual, does very little to assist the board in selecting the individual ahead of his peers. Punchy, factual statements clearly quantifying an individual’s performance and potential amongst his peers leaves little doubt in the board’s mind as to specific performances.
Individual’s Performance.
Reports applauding an individual’s ability to complete a difficult task that they have been allocated are less compelling than those where an individual has sought out opportunities to demonstrate their potential and abilities by taking the initiative themselves. Subjects that are afforded the opportunity to shine through substitution etc should have their performance in post substantiated with achievements detailed, and their performance in role quantified. Where opportunities do not exist within a place of work or within the immediate organisation for an individual to demonstrate additional capacity and their potential, then the opportunity must be taken to demonstrate qualities through other activities – Force Development lectures and Staff Rides were examples seen on this board that were positively commented upon by the board. It was evident that those pers on busy MOBs have a greater chance of demonstrating potential; therefore those individuals not currently posted to busy MOBS should seek operationally focussed and challenging OOA dets, which should also afford these opportunities to demonstrate capability and potential.
Timely Presentation of Reports
Some 9 months after the reporting period, 19 reports were unavailable. Of these, 5 individuals had sufficient seniority, but could not be pre-boarded, and therefore could not be presented to this PSB. One individual had two consecutive reports (04 and 05) missing, compromising their potential to be correctly pre-boarded. These omissions are completely unacceptable.
PRESIDENT’S REPORT
CPL-SGT SUPPLR 23-27 JUN 08
GENERAL OBSERVATIONS
The following general observations were raised by the Board:
B Grade Candidates
A total of 11 ‘B’ grade candidates were read as part of the 10% check, and all were found to be promotable and therefore included on the Promotion Selection List. (PSL).
Report Writing
A great many of the Special and High Recommendations presented, lacked sufficient justification to substantiate the recommendation. It was felt that the pre-boarding scores reflected the promotion recommendations rather than the subjects’ narratives. The most competitive individuals were those whose reports testified to their suitability for promotion by sighting examples of potential leadership and ability to seek and accept managerial challenges. Many reports read as laudatory letters, thanking the individual for their endeavours, which although gratifying to the individual, does very little to assist the board in selecting the individual ahead of his peers. Punchy, factual statements clearly quantifying an individual’s performance and potential amongst his peers leaves little doubt in the board’s mind as to specific performances.
Individual’s Performance.
Reports applauding an individual’s ability to complete a difficult task that they have been allocated are less compelling than those where an individual has sought out opportunities to demonstrate their potential and abilities by taking the initiative themselves. Subjects that are afforded the opportunity to shine through substitution etc should have their performance in post substantiated with achievements detailed, and their performance in role quantified. Where opportunities do not exist within a place of work or within the immediate organisation for an individual to demonstrate additional capacity and their potential, then the opportunity must be taken to demonstrate qualities through other activities – Force Development lectures and Staff Rides were examples seen on this board that were positively commented upon by the board. It was evident that those pers on busy MOBs have a greater chance of demonstrating potential; therefore those individuals not currently posted to busy MOBS should seek operationally focussed and challenging OOA dets, which should also afford these opportunities to demonstrate capability and potential.
Timely Presentation of Reports
Some 9 months after the reporting period, 19 reports were unavailable. Of these, 5 individuals had sufficient seniority, but could not be pre-boarded, and therefore could not be presented to this PSB. One individual had two consecutive reports (04 and 05) missing, compromising their potential to be correctly pre-boarded. These omissions are completely unacceptable.
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OOH WHO DIDN'T GET PICKED UP THEN! I got picked up last year and am from Brize god bless the board specialist.......played golf with him often ha ha!!!!
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PS: Forgot to add only one JNCO picked up at Brize so far.....kinda dumps on the theory doesn't it. ps I leave later this year so someone can have my slot ha ha
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both barrels
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Well done for quantifying your actual level of trade competence. A complete waste of blood and skin sh*tting on fellow stackers. What a waste of a slot for someone who may have given the service more. Still, you'll be out of your comfort zone soon and no golfing buddy is gonna help you next time.
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both barrels wrote:
Wouldn't be the same person who was at Bruggen when loads of Bruggen people got their good news (and a similar thing when he was at Cottesmore)? The name I have in mind has a certain 'ring' about it.(and he likes his golf)
Wouldn't be the same person who was at Bruggen when loads of Bruggen people got their good news (and a similar thing when he was at Cottesmore)? The name I have in mind has a certain 'ring' about it.(and he likes his golf)
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better luck next time!!!!
better luck next time!!!!
A total of 11 ‘B’ grade candidates were read as part of the 10% check, and all were found to be promotable and therefore included on the Promotion Selection List. (PSL).
WTF do they do when they pre-board candidates, by sheer luck the board just happened to read the 10% that fell through the net. I always knew the system was fair and just…. unless you are part of the other 90% that just may also have been promotable.
better luck next time!!!!
A total of 11 ‘B’ grade candidates were read as part of the 10% check, and all were found to be promotable and therefore included on the Promotion Selection List. (PSL).
WTF do they do when they pre-board candidates, by sheer luck the board just happened to read the 10% that fell through the net. I always knew the system was fair and just…. unless you are part of the other 90% that just may also have been promotable.
What 10% do you think they read then? The bottom 10% of the B-Grades, or the top 10%? Where were they placed on the PSL? Top, Middle or Bottom? If the "other 90%" were deserving of promotion, would they not have merited being A Grades?
Does it matter ? IF they were found to be promotable then they should have been A candidates anyway......
Crack on..................
DT_Xtremez_09:Talk sense you tool. If they were scored by the PSB and placed as the bottom 11 on the PSL, then they were correctly pre-boarded. I presume you are aware of how the number of A-Grades is calculated. If you don't know what you're talking about, shut up.Does it matter ? IF they were found to be promotable then they should have been A candidates anyway......
Crack on..................
Oi scribbly **** no i have no idea what i'm talking about but as i see it if the look at 10% of B grades and find them promotable then why wern't they picked up originally and do the people who did the crap F6000 get re-educating ?...no didn't think so
Crack on...............:0
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sundance kid
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All candidates are pre-boarded and placed into A B or C grade, the promotion board then randomly selects 10% of the B grade candidates to read. This means that in theory 100% of B grade candidates could have been promotable. As the report says “It was felt that the pre-boarding scores reflected the promotion recommendations rather than the subjects’ narratives”. This suggests to me that the pre-board did not read the B grade appraisals, however I just might be wrong. (PS: The red bit was sarcasm)
Correct, you don't.
What do you mean, picked up originally?
What crap F6000? They can't be crap because they've been !!!!!!
I refer you to my previous comment; we don't know where the PSB scored them, and if they are at the bottom of the PSL (i.e NOT selected), then they were correctly pre-boarded. There is a huge difference between "promotable" and "promoted".
Unless it's an A & C grade board of course. Pre-boarding involves appraisals being read, simple as.
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Sorry thought that was obvious, if there is no B grade candidates they cannot be read, however the size of the Supply Trade means it is highly unlikely that there were no B grade candidates. If all candidates are pre-boarded and placed in order of merit, then the Presidents Report suggests that the pre-board selected the candidates with the highest promotion recommendations and not on merit. Therefore what about the 90% that didn’t get make to the board.
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I concur with your reply, i was going to respond to the last message myself, but to be honest I didnt want to waste my energy typing. However since you made the effort I thought I would. Im just glad that bellends like him are getting out, it might mean that the good guys get a look in.
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Pity the specialist officer was from Kinloss not Bzn, well done for your knowledge that's probably why you will never get picked up. The golfing reference by the way was sarcasm at your bitterness, seeming as you don't know me I don't know how you can comment on my ability.......it's obviously greater than yours because of my Rank. Now empty the bins will you they must be full with all the rubbish you talk. That's an order by the way as I out rank you ha ha!!!!!
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Good guys come second bitter boy. Waste your energy all you like....if you put some energy in your work you might get promoted?????? ps I thought this was a forum about promotions fight club is for bickering!