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UlsterExile said:
Double standards as usual,no change there then.
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No double standards at all.

One set of suspects have been coached to lie and admit nothing for their whole lifetime.
Another set of interviewees thought they were doing the right thing and would be looked after.
 
Rocket_Ronster said:
No double standards at all.

One set of suspects have been coached to lie and admit nothing for their whole lifetime.
Another set of interviewees thought they were doing the right thing and would be looked after.
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I'll clarify my quote. Double standards by the government. They choose to appease the republican narrative.

And just to be clear Martin Magennis stated that "he would take some secrets to the grave rather than tell what actually went on. For me that tells you everything you need to know and the British Government should have at that point pulled every piece of funding and made it clear that no British serviceman will ever be prosecuted,
 
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muttywhitedog said:
Just for clarity - I include both Republican and Loyalist in my phrase "Irish terrorists". But I agree about Double Standards. Either everyone is prosecuted or nobody is prosecuted.
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Agree, they will both cut your throat as quick as you would look at them.
 
UlsterExile said:
I'll clarify my quote. Double standards by the government. They choose to appease the republican narrative.

And just to be clear Martin Magennis stated that "he would take some secrets to the grave rather than tell what actually went on. For me that tells you everything you need to know and the British Government should have at that point pulled every piece of funding and made it clear that no British serviceman will ever be prosecuted,
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And I'll clarify mine.

No double standards by the govt/CPS/MFI/CI5.

Irishman gets called in, "we've evidence you shot at 1,2,& 3" . Not me, wasn't there.
Englishman gets called in, "did you shoot at a,b &c ?" Yes.

Every single serviceman should have gone into the interview room and said it was 40yrs ago I can't remember.
Every single serviceman should have been instructed by his legal council that it was 40yrs ago and your memory might not be what it was.

Admit nothing, make them prove it.
 
Rocket_Ronster said:
And I'll clarify mine.

No double standards by the govt/CPS/MFI/CI5.

Irishman gets called in, "we've evidence you shot at 1,2,& 3" . Not me, wasn't there.
Englishman gets called in, "did you shoot at a,b &c ?" Yes.

Every single serviceman should have gone into the interview room and said it was 40yrs ago I can't remember.
Every single serviceman should have been instructed by his legal council that it was 40yrs ago and your memory might not be what it was.

Admit nothing, make them prove it.
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Isn't the problem that when soldiers shot people there were investigations at the time? It could only have been a few that did it and if they admitted it in self defence/preventing the deaths of others etc. then they reasonably thought owning up was the right thing to do/unavoidable. Cleared at the time it is only now that certain people,e are questioning the initial investigations. Just saying I don't remember wont work as you made statements etc. at the time.
 
Another twist to the story.

"Conditional immunity from prosecutions for Troubles-era crimes, contained in the UK government's controversial Legacy Act, is in breach of the European Convention on Human Rights, the High Court in Belfast has ruled."

www.bbc.co.uk

NI Troubles: Legacy Act immunity clause 'breaches' human rights

The law involves a conditional amnesty for suspects and bans future inquests and civil actions.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
NI a time and a story that seemingly just won't go quietly into the history books even decades after the "troubles". Those in uniform in the 70's, if they are still with us, are heading for their own personal 70's now.

www.bbc.co.uk

Scappaticci: Report says Army's top IRA spy cost more lives than he saved

The Kenova report finds security services did not stop some crimes in order to protect their agents.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
Update. Legal proceedings are still moving towards the trial of soldier F possibly in 2025.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce90gvxe1ylo

"Lawyers for the former soldier had argued the evidence against him was insufficient......However, Mr Justice Fowler dismissed their application to stop the prosecution.........Mr Justice Fowler also ruled that Soldier F's anonymity would continue to be protected, as there is a risk he could be targeted for attack if identified......A date for Soldier F's trial will be decided early in the New Year."
 
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