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Sorry for what may appear to be a numpty posting, but I am quite detached at the moment from the blue world.

Is it true that you have to use your leave up on posting to a new unit, especially if you are serving overseas.

Thanks in advance
 
No, the rule is you need to use any 'Carried Forward' leave before your posting date.
 
you have to use up the excess carried forward leave

there is no mechanism on JPA to reduce your balance of the normal 15 carried forward
 
So the new policy is designed to disadvantage those posted in April/May over those posted in Feb/March then?
 
Joe_90 said:
So the new policy is designed to disadvantage those posted in April/May over those posted in Feb/March then?
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Was just thinking the same thing:

2 people both with same leave, lets say 55 days..one is posted on 15 March and the other on 15 April...

March guy arrives and nothing is done....55 days thanks very much
April guy arrives and is duly deducted 17 days leave to bring him down to 38 days...

I may be missing something because surely any decent organisation would not allow such a thing to happen....??

I standby to be corrected.
 
clungemobile said:
Was just thinking the same thing:

2 people both with same leave, lets say 55 days..one is posted on 15 March and the other on 15 April...

March guy arrives and nothing is done....55 days thanks very much
April guy arrives and is duly deducted 17 days leave to bring him down to 38 days...

I may be missing something because surely any decent organisation would not allow such a thing to happen....??

I standby to be corrected.
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Guy with 55 days leave left in March will lose much of his leave on 1 Apr when the new leave year starts unless he has a very good reason that he hasn't taken in all in the preceeding 11 months.

You are disadvantaged though being posted early in the leave year if you have carried forward excess leave as you need to take that leave or lose it. New rules are designed to stop people stockpiling leave but you and your LM need to organise your leave to ensure that you can take the majority of it even if it means taking leave when you don't necessarily want to.

Next year on 1 Apr 12 all excess leave will be lost so start planning now.
 
In the bigger picture does it matter whether you have stockpiled leave? Like the Asda adverts, when it's gone it's gone! For the 'managers', as long as you stick to minimum manning etc it can all be managed, not rocket science.
 
Right, had this discussion with the Leave Policy people, who thought I was being extremely devious.

You start the new leave year with 15 days CF leave (53 days leave). You get a short notice posting (1 May) and have no chance to take your excess leave.

Stick 15 days leave in for, say Sep. Get posted, at new unit cancel leave, hey presto....you still have 53 days leave.

So come on fellow scribblys, what prevents people from doing this.....
 
Humble Scribe said:
Next year on 1 Apr 12 all excess leave will be lost so start planning now.
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Interesting to see what happens with this - I go OOA for 6 months in March, get back end of September. Take 20 days PODL so eventually get back to work around the start of November. Christmas Grant might eat about 6 days at a push so I realistically have 3 months to take 32 days leave! That is going to go down well in the workplace and I am sure I am not the only one in this position.

Another well thought out decision...
 
I still can't see how someone can have leave removed if they have less than 38 days. How can you prove they haven't used the ones carried over?
 
monobrow said:
I still can't see how someone can have leave removed if they have less than 38 days. How can you prove they haven't used the ones carried over?
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They won't fella. You basically have to get down to 38 days on your posting, it's only the CF leave that is lost.
 
The Chf Clk said:
They won't fella. You basically have to get down to 38 days on your posting, it's only the CF leave that is lost.
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I have just had the pleasure of reading JSP760 bit regarding this beauty.


....The opportunity to ‘stockpile’ large amounts of excess Annual Leave is to be discouraged. After 3 years or at the end of a tour, whichever is sooner, personnel are to take all untaken leave...
 
NotAnIDOYet said:
Interesting to see what happens with this - I go OOA for 6 months in March, get back end of September. Take 20 days PODL so eventually get back to work around the start of November. Christmas Grant might eat about 6 days at a push so I realistically have 3 months to take 32 days leave! That is going to go down well in the workplace and I am sure I am not the only one in this position.

Another well thought out decision...
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Like I said before, when this came out I called the Policy people immediately. Basically, they said people can still apply to CF leave, for cases such as yours.

Considering almost everyone carries forward some leave, I said to the blokey that, thanks to this new system, instead of the 50 gen apps I see for people to CF in excess of 15 days, I'll probably get about 2000 for people to CF anything from 1 day. He just said, "Yes".

Thanks alot!!!!!:PDT_Xtremez_32:
 
clungemobile said:
I have just had the pleasure of reading JSP760 bit regarding this beauty.


....The opportunity to ‘stockpile’ large amounts of excess Annual Leave is to be discouraged. After 3 years or at the end of a tour, whichever is sooner, personnel are to take all untaken leave...
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The thing is mate, no-one can really stockpile large amounts of leave (unless they call 15 days large amounts) because the number of gen apps authorised to CF in excess of 15 days is very very small.

It's just another stupid policy decision that was instigated without any input from us 'clerks'.
 
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