Vaccination Thread

[Vushtrri]

Facebook idiots tend to be over 65 and female. Or drive white vans. Or be Essex house wifes + husbands. TOWIE!

Exactly, all Pfizer have said is that they have assessed the efficacy of the immunisation at their recommended time span, not at the maximum of 12 weeks. Just they say it will not give 100% immunity, they will give a time scale for each inoculation and not move from it for legality reasons. As the system gets up and running and onto 24 hr coverage if the supply chain is adapted to cope with it, common sense dictates that the time span between 1st and 2 nd shots will come down.. I am not for one minute denying that we are in a sticky situation at the moment, but **** me there are so many people who want to put a negative spin on every positive advancement in tackling this situation

 

[busby1971]

It was never a guess. Winter and respiratory diesese go hand in hand. The experts said that 80K deaths from Covid other this winter would be worse case, if things were not controlled. The idiots catching it are the OAPs that totally disregard the fact that their grandchildren have it from school. The number of mixed households I have seen outside of gov guidelines of grandparents with their extended families and OAPs in supermarkets shopping like normal times. Yesterday on the local walk, I saw two cars dropping off two girls to walk together. Could be sisters, but two different households and they didn't socially distance to walk. Madness in the time when the solution is just out there and a few weeks could allow things to happen the way you say. But they will not, as average Brition is as thick as a piece of 4 by 2.

People are people, it needs is the majority to comply, unfortunately all it takes is one person to be a dick and a whole group can go down. Had a chat to a fellow HR person yesterday who had just let a person go because they broke the tier rules, developed symptoms but still attended work and passed it around the workplace.

 

[I Look Like Kevin Costner]

People are people, it needs is the majority to comply, unfortunately all it takes is one person to be a dick and a whole group can go down. Had a chat to a fellow HR person yesterday who had just let a person go because they broke the tier rules, developed symptoms but still attended work and passed it around the workplace.

Common sense rules that we, in basic training, were told "If ill, do not go into work but go to the med centre." Alas, such common sense rules are not taught outside or applied by many, neither do companies support such in the main (we never had our pay cut).

 

[Oldstacker]

I do wonder if we as (mostly) ex-service are better at complying with the lockdown guidelines because of our service careers. We had years of complying with rules - not, if we are honest, because we were beaten into submission (some were masters at getting around them and using common sense) but because we saw the logic behind most of them, lived with the ones that we didn't really believe in, endured lots of 'hurry up and wait' and made the most of being stuck in some pretty dire places at times. Has that equipped us for life better than a degree in meeja studies & drawing sorry, graphic design?

 

[Defenestration]

Exactly, all Pfizer have said is that they have assessed the efficacy of the immunisation at their recommended time span, not at the maximum of 12 weeks. Just they say it will not give 100% immunity, they will give a time scale for each inoculation and not move from it for legality reasons. As the system gets up and running and onto 24 hr coverage if the supply chain is adapted to cope with it, common sense dictates that the time span between 1st and 2 nd shots will come down.. I am not for one minute denying that we are in a sticky situation at the moment, but **** me there are so many people who want to put a negative spin on every positive advancement in tackling this situation

That is good to know, thank you.

 

[I Look Like Kevin Costner]

I do wonder if we as (mostly) ex-service are better at complying with the lockdown guidelines because of our service careers. We had years of complying with rules - not, if we are honest, because we were beaten into submission (some were masters at getting around them and using common sense) but because we saw the logic behind most of them, lived with the ones that we didn't really believe in, endured lots of 'hurry up and wait' and made the most of being stuck in some pretty dire places at times. Has that equipped us for life better than a degree in meeja studies & drawing sorry, graphic design?

No. Most people I know that served in the RAF were uneducated as school children. They didn't improve during their careers.

 

[Vushtrri]

No. Most people I know that served in the RAF were uneducated as school children. They didn't improve during their careers.

That’s what comes of working as a steward / pot washer in the Officers Mess.

 

[I Look Like Kevin Costner]

That’s what comes of working as a steward / pot washer in the Officers Mess.

Try most trades. I had to have 4 O levels to get into my trade when I joined up. Many people of course self improved afterwards, a lot did not. Wished I had carried on with HND and mechanical engineering degrees after my HNC. Alas I did the LAE modules instead.

 

[fourteen2two]

I didn't bother at school so didn't have many O levels. I used the opportunities in the RAF to get educated to degree level.
Lot of work in my own time but got me a good job in FE after leaving.
I did quite a long time instructing , most of mechs and techs have 4 relevant gcse!
Those who are or were of the techie fraternity know how hard you work on the FT or DE courses.
My wife trained as a nurse in the RAF, you don't get into nursing if an uneducated school child!
She has an MA.

 

[busby1971]

GCSEs are not really a good indicator of intelligence, more an indicator of how well you can take on, retain and repeat basic information having been dragged through an education system under a great deal of parent and teacher pressure.

The current education system fails so many people who are more vocational than academic, forcing kids who are never going to get a worthwhile grade to complete their GCSEs is stupidity if you ask me, nobody does. And then you’ve got all the young uns who learn differently or come from homes where the importance of education isn’t understood.

Anyway god knows what this has got to do with having the vaccination, so let’s get back on topic.

 

[Barch]

GCSEs are not really a good indicator of intelligence, more an indicator of how well you can take on, retain and repeat basic information having been dragged through an education system under a great deal of parent and teacher pressure.

The current education system fails so many people who are more vocational than academic, forcing kids who are never going to get a worthwhile grade to complete their GCSEs is stupidity if you ask me, nobody does. And then you’ve got all the young uns who learn differently or come from homes where the importance of education isn’t understood.

Anyway god knows what this has got to do with having the vaccination, so let’s get back on topic.

May be because the lower / uneducated are more likely to be influenced by social media and are quite likely to be anti-establishment with the result that they are the ones that won't follow the rules or get their vaccination jabs.

 

[busby1971]

May be because the lower / uneducated are more likely to be influenced by social media and are quite likely to be anti-establishment with the result that they are the ones that won't follow the rules or get their vaccination jabs.

From what I've seen there are plenty of well educated anti-vaxers, Dr Wakefield was a very educated man and look at the impact he had, not sure if he's still a Dr though.

 

[I Look Like Kevin Costner]

From what I've seen there are plenty of well educated anti-vaxers, Dr Wakefield was a very educated man and look at the impact he had, not sure if he's still a Dr though.

No he is not. He is a ******, mind as many children that would not have suffered the effects of the diseases, the vaccines he called as dangerous would have stopped, did suffer the consquences. You do the research and it was the Telegraph and the Sun that were the worst offenders. Journalists that thought they knew more than the public health authortities backing that ******. Where have I heard that since on many subjects?

 

[busby1971]

All press, apart from government sponsored ones, exist to sell advertising, boring news doesn’t sell space.

 

[Rigga]

I’ve just had the alternative to the vaccine....the real thing. Its not an experience I want to repeat.
I went into hospital on 4th Jan and I woke up about 10 days ago - from what I can gather.
I have suffered many, many drug-induced delusions and hallucinations. Im still not sure what is/was real or not.
I am still not at home, but sitting on yet another hospital bed in a “Recuperation Home”. My task here is to learn to walk, preferably without the use of a zimmer frame, learn to go up and down stairs and to tie my own shoelaces again....this is the reality of successfully recovering from Covid.
Yes, I would take the drugs offered....

 

[busby1971]

I’ve just had the alternative to the vaccine....the real thing. Its not an experience I want to repeat.
I went into hospital on 4th Jan and I woke up about 10 days ago - from what I can gather.
I have suffered many, many drug-induced delusions and hallucinations. Im still not sure what is/was real or not.
I am still not at home, but sitting on yet another hospital bed in a “Recuperation Home”. My task here is to learn to walk, preferably without the use of a zimmer frame, learn to go up and down stairs and to tie my own shoelaces again....this is the reality of successfully recovering from Covid.
Yes, I would take the drugs offered....

You must have been on Vim’s list, best wishes with your recovery.

 

[Oldstacker]

I’ve just had the alternative to the vaccine....the real thing. Its not an experience I want to repeat.
I went into hospital on 4th Jan and I woke up about 10 days ago - from what I can gather.
I have suffered many, many drug-induced delusions and hallucinations. Im still not sure what is/was real or not.
I am still not at home, but sitting on yet another hospital bed in a “Recuperation Home”. My task here is to learn to walk, preferably without the use of a zimmer frame, learn to go up and down stairs and to tie my own shoelaces again....this is the reality of successfully recovering from Covid.
Yes, I would take the drugs offered....

Wow; i've had a couple of colleagues who've had it but not that bad. Glad to hear that you are on the road to recovery now though.... Keep going....

 

[Tin basher]

I’ve just had the alternative to the vaccine....the real thing. Its not an experience I want to repeat.
I went into hospital on 4th Jan and I woke up about 10 days ago - from what I can gather.
I have suffered many, many drug-induced delusions and hallucinations. Im still not sure what is/was real or not.
I am still not at home, but sitting on yet another hospital bed in a “Recuperation Home”. My task here is to learn to walk, preferably without the use of a zimmer frame, learn to go up and down stairs and to tie my own shoelaces again....this is the reality of successfully recovering from Covid.
Yes, I would take the drugs offered....

Can't wait to get the vaccine and stories such as yours only reinforce that willingness to get jabbed up ASAP. Speedy recovery chap.

 

[fourteen2two]

Get well soon. Hoping to get ours soon, 65 to 70 group. A mate and his wife getting theirs today same ages as us but different hub.

 

[Tin basher]

Some of the 65 - 70 group already getting calls to come and be jabbed up in my locale.