Afghan LOA

[The Masked Geek]

You know what? I think it's a brilliant idea. I'm not a P1 specialist but I think MAA is probably more appropriate than a formal charge, however, it will serve to highlight the areas of concern and (in theory at least) will result in an improved service.

Can't use MAA, it's been too long since the event. It'll have to be a charge.

Now, time to find out which of the little sh1ts I spoke to.

 

[NATOStandard]

FFS, you put me close to tears on the last one, now my ribs are hurting. Now waiting for the outcome on this one

 

[The Masked Geek]

Right, can any of you admin lot explain this to me:

It's from my Employment page-

GBR|T06|GYHMST|N||140|||GBR|P02|N|||A||YNN|||G3TB|G3TB|U|GBR

Then it changes to

GBR|T06||N|||||GBR|P02|N|||A||YNN|||G3TB|G3TB|U|GBR

And finally:

||||||||GBR|P02|N|||A||NNN|||G3TB|G3TB|U|GBR

 

[True Blue Jack]

You were on temporary assignment in Great Britain for which you were being paid Get You Home Mileage in the same theatre at the 140 mile rate. Your permanent unit is also in Great Britain, you had a Pay As You Dine marker and are not attracting seagoers' allowances. You live in a Type B, Grade 3 unfurnished SFA for which you are paying the appropriate charge.

For the second one, your Get You Home Mileage was stopped, and for the third, you were returned to your permanent unit and the PAYD marker was removed.

Simples! DT_Xtremez_42:

 

[The Masked Geek]

Cheers TBJ. It took 10 days to go from 1 to 3.


What gets me about the system is that number one had an expiry date so why can't the system just put me back to normal at the end.....

 

[NATOStandard]

How long was your det for?

If only JPA was that easy

 

[The Masked Geek]

It was the same length as every other IMLC.......DT_Xtremez_14:

 

[True Blue Jack]

Fair enough, but there may have been a reason that you were RTU'd before completing the course, e.g., injury, so the end date needs a human input to confirm it.

I don't like harping on about the "good old days" because they're not coming back, but SAMA used to throw out a diary print every day from the date you were expected back until your return was confirmed by the clerk. JPA doesn't do that, so the clerks have to rely on individuals telling them they are back on unit. Not everyone does.

 

[The Masked Geek]

Ok, so I have pushed as far as I am able to without hitting some form of wall.


Now comes a question:

If my GYH was stopped on the 5th Feb, why did I get paid GYH for the whole of feb?

Surely the system can figure that one out.

Or is it because I wasn't actually RTU'd until the 15th?

 

[Pop Star's Wages]

Ok, so I have pushed as far as I am able to without hitting some form of wall.


Now comes a question:

If my GYH was stopped on the 5th Feb, why did I get paid GYH for the whole of feb?

Surely the system can figure that one out.

Or is it because I wasn't actually RTU'd until the 15th?

Yes. Pay run missed so allowance paid until the end of the month, usual recovery will/should (I always say 'should' to my guys to cover my @rse) take place next month.

 

[NATOStandard]

Nope

Because you returned after the pay run on 12 Feb you will get the whole allowance for that month.

 

[The Masked Geek]

I'll explain myself better:

I physically returned on the 5th and reported to PSF to alert them of my return.

My GYH was stopped on the 5th. So clearly the clerk did something but I still received a full month of GYH for Feb.


The only thing that happened after the 12th was my JPA RTU which happened on the 15th - 10 days after I told them I was back. And this only happened after I phoned the JNCO and demanded it was done.


18th Jan - 4th Feb

GBR|T06|GYHMST|N||140|||GBR|P02|N|||A||YNN|||G3TB| G3TB|U|GBR

5th Feb - 14 Feb
GBR|T06||N|||||GBR|P02|N|||A||YNN|||G3TB|G3TB|U|GB R

15th Feb -

||||||||GBR|P02|N|||A||NNN|||G3TB|G3TB|U|GBR



I can only wonder at what magical method they will use to claim it back.

I'll probably be given another £50,000 which they will take back at £100,000 per month until I own them £50,000,000 when they will issue me £100,000,000 to cover the offset and I'll have to pay back the extra £50,000,000 at £100,000,000 per month until I owe them ................

 

[True Blue Jack]

My guess is that the action to stop your GYHM was taken after the payroll cut-off date. The 5th would be the effective date of the change but you can't see from the information you have available when that change was actually input to the system.

 

[The Masked Geek]

The 5th would be the effective date of the change but you can't see from the information you have available when that change was actually input to the system.

Ah, that sheds a different light on things.

I reported on the 5th, sent an email on the 8th and finally got it done on the 15th after another phonecall.

Just so I and others know, how long does it take to action an RTU?

 

[NATOStandard]

TMG in all honesty it is something that should be done on the day you report it or at least in very close proximity to it due to clerks having other peps to chase up who don't arrive back etc. Not trying to use that as an excuse.

However the length of time taken shows the Clk did not prioritise it correctly and you did the right thing by putting it up the chain of command. Maybe their JNCO got on their case about why it was not actioned but then who knows

 

[The Masked Geek]

The clerk didn't prioritise it at all. The clerk just didn't do it.

Maybe I'll "prioritise" my RTU in future and earn some interest on the ill gotten gains before I eventually get round to telling them......If my pay is gonna get screwed up, it may as well be on my terms and in my favour.


Anyway, I've hijacked this thread for long enough........

 

[True Blue Jack]

how long does it take to action an RTU?

If the clerk is switched on he will check to see what permanent allowances, if any, are in issue (HDT, etc.) before he actually actions the RTU. (JPA doesn't restart that kind of thing automatically). All that might take a couple of minutes, making the total time to carry out the JPA input, about a couple of minutes.

Now, there may well have been mitigating circumstances to explain why he couldn't deal with it immediately but I cannot see any reason that would have delayed matters by more than one working day.

 

[I look like Bruce Willis]

Anyone who recieved LOA erroniously is guilty of theft and should be brought before a courts martial immediately.

 

[4everAD]

Anyone who recieved LOA erroniously is guilty of theft and should be brought before a courts martial immediately.

Quite right old chap! You can put them in the dock next to the ones accused of having an extra cup of juice in a PAYD mess.DT_Xtremez_42:

 

[I look like Bruce Willis]

Quite right old chap! You can put them in the dock next to the ones accused of having an extra cup of juice in a PAYD mess.DT_Xtremez_42:

If I suspected anyone of being guilty of this henous crime then I would not hesitate to place them under close arrest until they face the full force of the law.