Det Rules - Good or Bad

[Stax]

Det rules can be handy for some indiscretions with the local police but if someone has "set up home" with A.N OTHER female/male on det then maybe his/her mates should have a word rather than drop them in the poo. If they fail to head the warning from their mates then they deserve all they get!

This is another erosion of service life. In the old days (pulls up sandbag, swings tilley) we all looked after each other. It wasn't just the Det rules, it was everything. If a mate got pi55ed and lairy, you got him home and in bed, YOU CHECKED ON HIM DURING THE NIGHT, to ensure he didn't choke on his own vomit. You bought a Newbie a beer in the NAAFI, Mess etc. At weekends you all piled in to a train or a JT's car (it was only JT's could afford them) and went to a mates mums house on the pish! Quite rightly, on Det, if someone was abusing the "Rules" you took them off and had a quiet word! I know things change, some for the better, but as was stated earlier, with single rooms, 'tinterweb, playstation and mobiles, the camaraderie has become a shadow of it's former self IMHO, and that is a sad state of affairs, because when the young 'uns go on Det, they know not what to do! It still amuses me to see people get off the flight at MPA and look puzzled at the lack of a signal for their mobile, they are at a loss for weeks!

 

[Hu Jardon]

It still amuses me to see people get off the flight at MPA and look puzzled at the lack of a signal for their mobile, they are at a loss for weeks!

That reminds me of my last trip darn sarf - me and another old Fuddy Duddy used to have a bet on how many people would get off the Timmy wearing T shirts because it was Summer when they left the UK (seasons are 6 months out) funny as fnuck one day when some youngster got off in T Shirt & Shorts carrying a surfboard - He'd turned up in the terminal at Fries Broughton in CS95 so the movers made him change into civvies, the only thing he had was his shorts and T shirt in case he got stuck in AZI - he was only the new BEngO off the Albert & VC10 brigade obviously well briefed by his mates at the secret Wiltshire airbase
Hu

 

[ExJayTee]

It wasn't just the Det rules, it was everything.


I'm with you on that one. Det rules should apply - male or female. If anyone starts to take the p*ss, then a quiet word is in order!

God, has it changed that much since 97! No one even questioned the application of Det Rules "in my time"!

 

[vim_fuego]

God, has it changed that much since 97! No one even questioned the application of Det Rules "in my time"!

Over-zealous application of 'Duty of Care' by certain individuals IMHO... Det rules are not there for only the unpleasant things in life...agreed if someone I knew well back home decided to go 'off road' when away and took the lady back to the hotel/accomodation/whatever and was basically shoving it in my face then words would be had and friendships strained...Doing it in his own time out of my face and not bragging about it...well I would'nt be any the wiser...This hyperthetical person may be on the brink of finishing whatever is back home anyway and you did just not know so knebbs out on my part...

But it's also there to protect the guy who perhaps runs through the bar wearing his best birthday suit...that incident might lift the mood of an otherwise low-morale det/op...may get people talking again...but the bloke who did it may not want this to get back home for although inocent in intent the missus may read more into it...See what I mean???

To cart-blanche diss the det rules takes away further layers of our heritage as a fight hard/play hard force...You'll never know who your characters are...some of us will have nothing but mundane things to assess you by!! No-one will know when and how to really 'cut loose' for fear of reprisal back home and thats just a shame...........

 

[kit]

I think you need to set the rules down before you go- speak tp your other half and set the ground rules, eg look don't touch for both parties.

Also i think anyone back home that isn't expecting at least one stupid bit of behavour while away is just niave, things will happen when the sqn/flt/crew etc is away, and will probably be drink induced, hopefully the culprit will be fully ashamed of themseves and say sorry, hopefull the injured party will forgive them.
But at the end of the day that their chioce- if their big enough to mkake their own chioces their big enough to take the conciquenes.

I agree with det rules, what happens away stays away, but i hope that someone would be big enough to own up, i'd rather know then be lied to, and i hope i'm big enough to listen to their side of the story.

 

[shiny_arse]

Agreeance

Agreeance

To cart-blanche diss the det rules takes away further layers of our heritage as a fight hard/play hard force...You'll never know who your characters are...some of us will have nothing but mundane things to assess you by!! No-one will know when and how to really 'cut loose' for fear of reprisal back home and thats just a shame...........

Well presented point and cuts straight to the core. I had a cracking last night on Det and hell had even behaved myself. The first question I had from the missus was how much did I enjoy my leaving do and showed me a photo of moi dressed up in a pilfered bra and skirt that had been forwarded through by someone back to their missus who in turns shows mine. Good news is that as an ex-scaley brat she is quite used to my various levels of drunken hijinks. Hell was even impressed that technology is that advanced from the back end of beyond. Not impressed that my entire evening was divulged. Many other party poopers were lurking in the background.

 

[gemma]

Are you worried at all?

No, as I said, it all depends on how much you think you are prepared to lose. I'm in the RAF too and flirting is a healthy and valid part of all life, not just service life. If somebody chooses to take it further, and I found out about it then that would be it. Game over, no second chances, end ex. So, he knows where i stand, if he chooses to take that risk, so be it.
The truth will always come out in the end. (Especially as no one abides by det rules anymore anyway.)
whoever made the comment about camera phones had a very valid point.
And in the not too distant past, (pre marriage) I too have been known to apply det rules.

 

[ROTORHEAD]

Play hard

Play hard

To cart-blanche diss the det rules takes away further layers of our heritage as a fight hard/play hard force...You'll never know who your characters are...some of us will have nothing but mundane things to assess you by!! No-one will know when and how to really 'cut loose' for fear of reprisal back home and thats just a shame...........

According to a station wide E-mail from the 3 bar admin'r at a northern base, we are no longer a work hard play hard force, "just work hard"! What a Kn*b!

DT_Xtremez_06:

 

[14bombhead]

I find it quite courageous that you admit on a public forum that you are so spineless as to care whether people will or won't invite you to a party/ night out because you refuse to condone innapropriate behaviour. How do you then set an example to those who are your peers, subordinates and superiors and expect them to respect you? I think the 'friends' you will be left with are the untrustworthy backstabbers you seem to abhor. Especially if, as I already stated, they are happy to betray their supposed closest companions, I don't think you as a 'mate' will stand much chance of loyalty from that individual.
I don't actively 'seek out' any gossip, nor do I expect people to include me in their sewing circles, and quite frankly I could care less, however, This Detatchment Rules has had its day. It was and is an adulterers charter, designed to help those who choose to cheat to keep everyone else quiet and make it acceptable. I think you'd find it bl**dy hard explaining the concept to a child who's parents are splitting up because someone else 'thought they could get away with it' and some gob****e opened their big mouth.
nuff said by mr holier than thou I think, I need a lie down.

What a bundle of fun you must be in the crewroom!!! Det rules were never just meant for the unfaithful, they were meant to cover everything. Have you actually been on a det?

 

[R_Squared]

What a bundle of fun you must be in the crewroom!!! Det rules were never just meant for the unfaithful, they were meant to cover everything. Have you actually been on a det?

Plenty of dets cheers mate, All the other stuff, getting sh1tfaced and hiding from coppers I have no problem with and have certainly helped out plenty of mates and covered for them when needed, on det AND back over here.
But Detatchment rules, as quoted in most respects, implys covering for an adulterer, which I won't do. I won't go off shooting off my mouth, but will not cover for them if they blow it, or am asked about it! If they want to sh1t all over their life and partner, thats their business but don't expect me to condone it or go all 'boys club, nudge, nudge, wink, wink' about it either. It's hard enough being away from the family as it is without partners worrying about how trustworthy we all are, I certainly wouldn't want Det rules to apply if my missus decided to mess about when I'm away! In fact I wouldn't be too well disposed to those who thought they were doing someone a favour by applying them.

 

[Shinyscot]

showed me a photo of moi dressed up in a pilfered bra and skirt that had been forwarded through by someone back to their missus who in turns shows mine.

But did the bra fit you??

 

[Billy Whizz]

I have been hurt by det. rules and I don't like them.

The hurt was not because he had sex with the civvie brummie whore. The hurt was because everyone knew except me.

I asked to see a photo and was pleased to see she looked like a minger. In comparison I felt like a model. I telephoned the biatch who turned out to be a single mum of two again that felt fabulous, her diction and vocabulary made me feel like a genius. I speak myself with a regional accent so I can't pull her apart about that, but despite my own accent I do not use regional dialect and I pronounce every letter. So to summarise I am far superior to her in every way.DT_Xtremez_19: I love me who do you love? Lol. It’s good I love me really, someone has to justify my existence

Who lost out, he did because he lost his meal ticket, his home. I won, I gained my freedom and stopped being 'her indoors' and started to live again. I looked long and hard at my career and now have objectives, goals and aims. I am also living the life of a singlie and it feels bloody good, not to have to look after some kn*b of a man who has no hope other than to serve his time and remain a dumb fcuk peanut his entire career. I don't dislike peanuts but, I just prefer them covered in chocolate and out of packets.

Would I partake in the sport that is Det rules... Obviously not you have to be in a long term loving relationship for it to be valid.

I am now a self confessed man hater. Despite this happening a very loooooooong time ago.

Bet you're glad to get that off your chest? DT_Xtremez_28:

 

[auchtermuchty]

...I am now a self confessed man hater...

So does this mean none of us stand a chance of a quickie after one of sausage 2's group therapy sessions?DT_Xtremez_06: DT_Xtremez_06:

 

[maninthevan]

Det rules are only fun if you share the antic's.

If you have ever been to a reunion you will know that as soon as the beer flows the stories come thick and fast. I am no innocent. I have got up to loads of mischief. The difference I don't care who knows, I talk openly about it and some of my stories would even make your toes curl.

N.O.Princess...........

I think I can honestly say that you now have all of our attention!!!! Consider us all sat comfortably with our best listening ears on...........DT_Xtremez_30:

 

[Billy Whizz]

And that's the tame version!
Sh1t - how come i've never been on Det with you or your mates - sounds like a good crack. DT_Xtremez_30:

 

[maninthevan]

Quote:
Originally Posted by no-ones_princess

Det rules are only fun if you share the antic's.

If you have ever been to a reunion you will know that as soon as the beer flows the stories come thick and fast. I am no innocent. I have got up to loads of mischief. The difference I don't care who knows, I talk openly about it and some of my stories would even make your toes curl.

Just for you maninthevan.

OK - TAME VERSION. I have carried out all of these in my younger days my husband was long suffering and we used to share our det stories.

My personal rule of old was as long as its funny and is not full sex and you are not attracted to the person anything goes. I am now a grown up and no-longer partake in the sport which is det rules. "Oh my aching bones."

Remove your knickers/boxers without leaving the room and place in a random mans/womans pocket without him/her knowing.
Fit a condom over a bottle using only your mouth
Naked BBQ (naked bar is sooooo 80's hunni)
Whisper something saucy to the highest ranking member make him/her think you mean it. At the end of the night tell him/her loudly it was a promotion thing.
In an allotted space of time you must collect: an empty bottle, a local bus ticket, a love letter and read it to everyone,Talk for one hour in radio speak forfeit you buy the drinks you must keep talking or another forfeit is imposed
Make up silly names for all members of your group, which must be used at all times.
Do a pre-designated dance every time the group call out a certain song title to you. Everyone has there own song or for the likes of Birdie song, bucks fizz- making your mind up ect split into groups.
The whole time you are away you must carry biscuit at all times this biscuit must remain in one piece at the end you can decide what to do with the biscuit.
Swap ALL clothes with a male/female of another rank, stay like this until naked bar is called.
Play Intimate with 2 people you don't know and your best friend in public.
Pi$$ed up all go for a naked run, last one back buys the round.
Put ice cubes on someones chest, wait two mins, smoother in warm kisses.
Name the four corners of the room wobbly, wife beater etc Bar man calls one of these last one to reach buys the round,
Bite a man/womans buttocks as hard as you like.
Play musical sexual positions.You may not repeats positions. Play in pairs as people are knocked out you may invite one of the losers to join your team.
Using your foot massage someone elses genitals.
Poor port onto someones genitals carefully lick off.
Chew the area around someone's navel
Lick up and down someones spine
Massage with oil someones thighs
Snog as many men/woman as possible in 3 mins. (same sex is funnier)

Now of you trundle and carry out the above.

Make sure all above is photographed/filmed and place in E-goat gallery.



I would love to write a witty answer but I'm still stuck thinking about the port!!!!DT_Xtremez_06:

 

[JoJo82]

‘What happens on deployment, stays on deployment’ etc, every one has this, base, ship, whatever but no one realizes the back shot of actually hurting someone’s feelings. Been on many deployments and seen many married personnel having a little fun with a local lass/guy or even intership sh@g fests! I do not agree with any of this, if you can’t keep it under control then be single and feck about, its pure greed at the end of the day. Temptation and all that, being drunk is an easy excuse as a way out.

The amount of times I haven’t been able to look at my mates or spend time with them after coming back from deployment due to their ‘loved ones’ having a rapid bunny park feature.

Not my thing, sorry.

 

[suewilldo]

I have been hurt by det. rules and I don't like them.

The hurt was not because he had sex with the civvie brummie whore. The hurt was because everyone knew except me.

I asked to see a photo and was pleased to see she looked like a minger. In comparison I felt like a model. I telephoned the biatch who turned out to be a single mum of two again that felt fabulous, her diction and vocabulary made me feel like a genius. I speak myself with a regional accent so I can't pull her apart about that, but despite my own accent I do not use regional dialect and I pronounce every letter. So to summarise I am far superior to her in every way.DT_Xtremez_19: I love me who do you love? Lol. It’s good I love me really, someone has to justify my existence

Who lost out, he did because he lost his meal ticket, his home. I won, I gained my freedom and stopped being 'her indoors' and started to live again. I looked long and hard at my career and now have objectives, goals and aims. I am also living the life of a singlie and it feels bloody good, not to have to look after some kn*b of a man who has no hope other than to serve his time and remain a dumb fcuk peanut his entire career. I don't dislike peanuts but, I just prefer them covered in chocolate and out of packets.

Would I partake in the sport that is Det rules... Obviously not you have to be in a long term loving relationship for it to be valid.

I am now a self confessed man hater. Despite this happening a very loooooooong time ago.

Its not so much the detachment rules that was an issue with me.It was the detachment "creepy crawleys" that were attached to the said individual when he got home.Now that was a nasty thing to bring back as all i wanted was a normal present.
Guess you live and learn or in his case he lived and crawled!

 

[suewilldo]

Lmao

Lmao

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AWww babe thats not nice. Hehe you seem to nhave a sense of humour about it.


eughhhh his loss lol

Well it was a long time ago and i didn`t catch anything so i didn`t loose much sleep over it!I was just going out with him at the time and i shagged his mate to make me feel better shortly after...so,"what goes around comes around" thats what i say.*wink*

 

[Pool and Darts]

Detachment rules.....

Nice easy topic for this time of night!

It just makes me laugh that people still think this is/should be a normal part of service life.

Anyone who claims that it applies to more than just a sexual free-for-all is so obviously mistaken. Covering up for drunken idiots who get themselves into a bit of trouble on det is one thing, but the 'don't-say-a-word-about-me shagging-anything-that-moves' side is what is really intended.

The bit I find most ironic is that the ones who are usually the worst culprits will usually be the ones that are most bitter and twisted if their missus plays away.

If you are a lying, spineless, 'can't keep it in your pants', slave to your primeval urges that has no integrity, that is your problem. Do not expect the rest of us to feel obliged to adhere to the same loose moral code. I suggest you keep it very, very clandestine, or be prepared to face the music. Or maybe, just don't get married in the first place. Try having some character.

I will not lie to anyone's wife, as I would not lie to my own.

I left squadron life because I couldn't be bothered to play along any more.

This is one side of service ethos I can do without.