Det Rules - Good or Bad

[Pool and Darts]

I think all of us agree sex with someone else other than your partner is wrong and if you do you are as you say Spineless. Det rules is more than the whole he/she/it slept with so and so.

I am lucky in that I am very open and honest and can admit things most woman won't. When I speak I do from my heart. That also comes from the fact I havent got 20 10 or even in my past, well never mind men to talk of. I can truely say that the men I have LOVED, I have loved and they have all in in there own ways hurt me.

I am lucky I HAVE loved and lost and loved again.

I am sat here tonight wondering could I allow a man who meant nothing to share my bed or anywhere else and my answer no I could not.

So as much as I lark about as much as I can be the tart/firt from hell no I am not made up that way.

I am a professional flirt and if one could gain a PHD in I would but for me the act of intercourse is abougt love.

I am a pathetic romantic and maybe at the old of 28. I should realise life is not all heart and flowers.

However I believe in my Happy ever after. God knows what would happen to me if I gave up hoping.

Don't give up girl, there's a 'happy ever after' out there for all of us.
You'll find it. Just don't try too hard, and it may just find you!

It's when you aren't looking for it that these things tend to sneak up on you!

 

[Stax]

I think all of us agree sex with someone else other than your partner is wrong and if you do you are as you say Spineless. Det rules is more than the whole he/she/it slept with so and so.

I am lucky in that I am very open and honest and can admit things most woman won't. When I speak I do from my heart. That also comes from the fact I havent got 20 10 or even in my past, well never mind men to talk of. I can truely say that the men I have LOVED, I have loved and they have all in in there own ways hurt me.

I am lucky I HAVE loved and lost and loved again.

I am sat here tonight wondering could I allow a man who meant nothing to share my bed or anywhere else and my answer no I could not.

So as much as I lark about as much as I can be the tart/firt from hell no I am not made up that way.

I am a professional flirt and if one could gain a PHD in I would but for me the act of intercourse is abougt love.

I am a pathetic romantic and maybe at the old of 28. I should realise life is not all heart and flowers.

However I believe in my Happy ever after. God knows what would happen to me if I gave up hoping.

NOP, Trust me, you are not old at 28!

 

[Rebel without A Clue]

This is another erosion of service life. In the old days (pulls up sandbag, swings tilley) we all looked after each other. It wasn't just the Det rules, it was everything. If a mate got pi55ed and lairy, you got him home and in bed, YOU CHECKED ON HIM DURING THE NIGHT, to ensure he didn't choke on his own vomit. You bought a Newbie a beer in the NAAFI, Mess etc. At weekends you all piled in to a train or a JT's car (it was only JT's could afford them) and went to a mates mums house on the pish! Quite rightly, on Det, if someone was abusing the "Rules" you took them off and had a quiet word! I know things change, some for the better, but as was stated earlier, with single rooms, 'tinterweb, playstation and mobiles, the camaraderie has become a shadow of it's former self IMHO, and that is a sad state of affairs, because when the young 'uns go on Det, they know not what to do! It still amuses me to see people get off the flight at MPA and look puzzled at the lack of a signal for their mobile, they are at a loss for weeks!

The above is almost the best definition of "Det Rules" there is. Det rules are there to PROTECT the guys on det, to make sure that any indiscretions, not matter how major or trivial they are, don't end up being reflected in a F6000, it's to make sure that newbies are sewn into the rich fabric of service life, to make sure that fun in the bar/mess doesn't go too far, to make sure that the det really does work hard and play harder in the close knit environment that the RAF is all about. In other words TOO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE LOOKED AFTER. It is NOT a licence for people to forget about wives/husbands/partners back home. It's up to those of us with a few years under our belts to inform the new generations coming through what it's all about.

 

[Silverback]

My understanding of Det rules has always been: What happens on det, stays on det. If you want to play away then that is down to your own morales.
What is particularly annoying in this modern society is the 'mobile phone' pics of a good night out, or a bit of light-hearted alcohol fuelled fun, being sent halfway round the world by some 'spotty herbet' who doesn't understand the principles of det rules to every man and his dog back at home. The digital age has been responsible for many an embarassing moment and explanation, which frankly was un-necessary if the 'Det Rules' were still rigidly followed.

 

[Handreared]

the untrustworthy

the untrustworthy

Anyone who knowingly tries it on with a married servicewoman is not to be trusted when the chips are down. I am not sanctimonious but waited a long while and did much interviewing before I married Mrs Handreared. She has been deployed 3 times in 5 years and despite wearing her wedding ring has been hit on by men, the majority of which were either senior to her in age or rank (commissioned).. we got married and still trust one another totally, indeed I know the names of 2 of the b*stards. The 3rd one will be dealt with and know that he has been.

No i wont tell you who she is so you wont be the one - you can run the risk. You will know who you are when I hit you in the bar with a chair. Funnily enough since getting married I have been hit on by more married women than when I was single - not sure what the correlation is but there are some real slags out there that deserve all they get if they flaunt themselves around.

I will not and do not trust those I know to have affairs unless they are separated and I reflect it in their OJAR and F6000's. Its bad enough to be geographically separated form your wife without knowing that someone is trying to slip her a crippler everytime she gets ****ed!

 

[tourettes]

I will not and do not trust those I know to have affairs unless they are separated and I reflect it in their OJAR and F6000's.

The very fact that you admit to using the assessment system to vent your personal dislike and/or mistrust of any individual because of their personal choices just shows a crippiling lack of maturity and distinct lack of professional standards.

If you cant maintain the requisite amount of professional separation from peoples work and personal actions/lives, perhaps you should not be writing their assessments.

 

[SirSaltyHelmet]

She has been deployed 3 times in 5 years and despite wearing her wedding ring has been hit on by men, the majority of which were either senior to her in age or rank (commissioned)..

Have you never hit on a woman in a bar? You have already said you have interviewed a fair few for the job of Mrs.

Why can't you be flattered that she attracts attention? I would be. If you trust her that much, why do you need to resort to violence against those that hit on her?

Am I still right in saying "there are no ugly females in the FI?"

 

[wgaf]

Off Topic Tourettes, spot on mate, hand reared sounds like a complete c**k. Not a big believer in playing away myself, but we've all done some pretty stupid things when the alcohol hits home, and if this chock does not realise that he can seriously f**k someones career, for what could have been a drunken mistake, then you are correct in that he should not be in the position to write assessments.
Hmmm hitting someone in the bar with a chair, says it all really, bet He'd do it from behind as well. To**er.
Back on topic, as I've said I'm not a big fan of playing away, too many people can get hurt, but as has been said det rules are not just about hiding cheating spouses, they are there for the benefit of all, if you don't like what someone is doing then keep your ferking beak out of their bussiness. Simple really

 

[Bitburger]

I will not and do not trust those I know to have affairs unless they are separated and I reflect it in their OJAR and F6000's. Its bad enough to be geographically separated form your wife without knowing that someone is trying to slip her a crippler everytime she gets ****ed!

Cough, W@nker, Cough

I think you will find that the Service test applies here, if it does not effect operational effectiveness then it is nothing to do with you or the RAF so why should it reflect on their OJAR/6000?

If you can't trust your missus you have issues mate.

 

[mad_collie]

Off Topic Judging by the replies to his posts, either ILLBW has got a new username, or we have somebody attempting a spot of trolling.

(Or maybe he is a complete stroker)

 

[tonibaloni]

should handreared be known henceforth as "handjob" cos he seems to me to a bit of a tosser!

 

[mad_collie]

should handreared be known henceforth as "handjob" cos he seems to me to a bit of a tosser!

DT_Xtremez_30: Quality LOL, PMSL. HANDJOB it is ! ! ! DT_Xtremez_30:

 

[Hu Jardon]

I am not sanctimonious but waited a long while and did much interviewing before I married Mrs Handreared.

What you're really trying to say is that the rest of them figured out you were a complete c0ck DT_Xtremez_30:

 

[skevans]

Ignore the troll. He has attempted to wind people up elsewhere as well.

Back on topic. Det rules are a very good thing. What happens should not automatically be bought back to your station. Although det rules mainly apply to men, it mustn't be forgotten that either sex can, and will, do something when extra pressures and/or drink are applied than they would normally do at home.

It's not my place to run around telling tales on grown adults. So I don't. However that doesnt mean that I will lie on someone elses behalf either, Grown consenting adults that are affecting no one else can do what they like as far as I am concerned, just don't let it affect your work or my life.

 

[wgaf]

det rules

det rules

Couldn't have put it better myself Skevans, what people do in their own lives is their own business, so unless I am directly affected I would always stay out of someone elses business and I woul excpect them to reciprocate.

 

[katinthehat]

As a wife, I have conflicting views about this.

I trust my hubs totally, and, therefore, do not think Det Rules exist anymore.

However, I do expect drunken shenanigans and tom foolery whilest away, I knew what I married into, before anyone says I didnt! I can flirt with the best of them too, after a few jars, so thats tit for tat.

I do not expect him to poke evrything that moves however!

Big difference.

If he did, in a beer blinded blur, then Im sure its better that Det Rules DO exist - as I would find it easier not to know.

What I would object to are the "nosey neighbour" types who would break their neck to tell you what had happened, when mostly, its only cos their other halves have done it to them and they think that gives them the right to rain on my parade!!!

So, drunken japes & bawdy fun is all part of it, and goes without saying - bedding anything that offers is not. Det rules are there (as Ive been told) to stop others making a total 'arris of themselves.

Thats just a wifes point of view, as confusing as it may sound.

 

[wgaf]

det rules

det rules

Kat only wish more wives had that attitude. I've seen some right wars developing all because some wifey couldn't keep her beak out of someone elses business.
Personally know of one witch at an air base near peterborough who stirred the s**t while we were away and one of the boys missus got so convinced he was sh**ging around on det, she walked out on him, worst bit was poor fu**er was totally innocent.Personally feel the witch should have been crucified til her guts fell out her ar**. So yes there is a reason for det rules and people should stick to them.

 

[katinthehat]

NOP -
I agree about the wives thing, thats why I try and keep myself to myself. As far as Im concerned, Im a civvy. I married a guy in the RAF, I didnt sign up myself.

I dont do the "coffee morning" thing - and Det Rules is a good reason why not.
All it takes as we have already said, is some bloke to tell his Mrs a bit, and she adds the rest.... chinese whispers as ever in small communities.

I grew up in a very small village so know how it works - the RAF is just about the same. You cant sneeze without someone else knowing and everyone else finding out before you have even reeched for the Kleenex, right?

Everyone is allowed a mistake, and real mates, as said, will have a quiet word in your ear, then you dont make the same mistake. Thats when Det Rules are good - as it saves the growing divorce rate. Some things are better left unsaid......

As the one left behind, all sorts do go through your mind - but you have to have the strength to believe that your trust in your partner is justified. If not - why be married/involved at all???

Its when its becomes serial "mishaps" that Det Rules should be null & void, and the offending person be grown up enough to be honest.

Its only like a group of blokes /women out on a night out in Civvy street on a Friday/Saturday night. Everyone is sworn to secrecy....so no different.

Every relationship is different, but even if I didnt find out, I would expect my other half to have the b@lls to own up himself, before some other smiling pseudo "friend" let it slip.....

 

[vim_fuego]

because I am a stay at home mum and you work which means your husband/reconised partner is incapable of supporting you.DT_Xtremez_25:

I am sterotyping and I know some lovely wives they work (tongue in cheek)

You really are a prat for saying things like this...My wife is a nurse at Great Ormond Street...She obviously does not work for free but it's hardly going to put us in the 'weekly food shop at Marks and Spensers' bracket...Like many wives they enjoy the challenge and she definately does some good...My wage easily covers everything we need but who am to deny sick kids her skills.

'Q' some back paddling 'I'm so mad like a box of frogs' refer to previous hard times b*llocks retort from you...you prat.

 

[vim_fuego]

Say one thing...mean another...prat.